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Can anybody on this forum, agree with me on this?

Post by Skyle » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:39 am

We all agree that dubstep has it's "modern sound" if you want to put it that way, and we all know a lot of you hate it. I for one have nothing against the oldschool or newer side. It's getting annoying seeing as how a lot of people rip on the modern sound. Personally, I think they should separate the two genres with different names.. Who has the power of naming genres anyways? I'm guessing the artists.

The whole point of the thread though is that, can we agree that the modern sound isn't BAD? A lot of people like to say fucked up shit about it, but I think only because it was once a different sound. There is nothing wrong with it, it sounds good too.

Also on a side note, is it just me or does anybody else feel that Mr.Big Boy "S" didn't really get to where he is on his own? I mean for christ sakes hes the fucking hugest trend hopper ever (also being famous for all of them), and who knows what he will fuck up next.
(You all should know who I'm talking about.. just tired of seeing that damn name everywhere)


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Post by FuDuzn » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:56 am

Your post is a bit jumbled, but I think I understand what you are are saying......and I disagree. The great thing about dubstep is that it offers lots of creativity to the artist to decide what he/she thinks dubstep is. Some make atmospheric tracks, some make dark tracks, some make some bass heavy wobbles, and some like to use mid range......but at the end of the day it is all dubstep. Some of the 'old guard' on here can't stand to hear the sound change a bit, but if music does not evolve then it will just get stale. I can't really fault them too much, a lot of these people produce and/or DJ dubstep so they are emotionally involved and don't want to see what they know and love to be bastardized and sold to the mainstream(like what has been done with the one you call 'S'). I like seeing producers like Skream, Liquid Stranger, and to a lesser extent Coki explore all ends of dubstep and keep it fresh, I personally don't want to listen to the same style all the time.

I guess to sum it up, it is all dubstep even if you think it isn't (expect for 'S')

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Post by wobbles » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:00 am

I listen to a youngsta set, full of brand new tunes and they are very modern sounding to me. Really it all comes down to quality, no matter when it was made.

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Post by Teknicyde » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:14 am

Its brostep and dubstep bro did you miss this bulletin?

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Post by FuDuzn » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:25 am

Teknicyde wrote:Its brostep and dubstep bro did you miss this bulletin?
Like I said, 'Old Guard'(and yes I know he joined just before me, but he represents my point)

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Post by Skyle » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:32 am

FuDuzn wrote:Your post is a bit jumbled, but I think I understand what you are are saying......and I disagree. The great thing about dubstep is that it offers lots of creativity to the artist to decide what he/she thinks dubstep is. Some make atmospheric tracks, some make dark tracks, some make some bass heavy wobbles, and some like to use mid range......but at the end of the day it is all dubstep. Some of the 'old guard' on here can't stand to hear the sound change a bit, but if music does not evolve then it will just get stale. I can't really fault them too much, a lot of these people produce and/or DJ dubstep so they are emotionally involved and don't want to see what they know and love to be bastardized and sold to the mainstream(like what has been done with the one you call 'S'). I like seeing producers like Skream, Liquid Stranger, and to a lesser extent Coki explore all ends of dubstep and keep it fresh, I personally don't want to listen to the same style all the time.

I guess to sum it up, it is all dubstep even if you think it isn't (expect for 'S')
I agree with you, I just wish a lot of people felt that way too so the tension can stop. YOu make a really good point on evolving music also, if it stayed the same always, not even dubstep would be here. We'd still be banging on rocks with sticks and shit like the cavemen did (at least I'm guessing lol)! Maybe one day dubstep will take on sub-genres you think? Like metal to black metal, heavy metal, thrash metal, you get the point. Besides brostep, I don't know why but that term kind of bugs me!

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Post by wobbles » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:34 am

Why not just listen to what sounds good to you and forget about what it's called?

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Post by Skyle » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:46 am

wobbles wrote:Why not just listen to what sounds good to you and forget about what it's called?
and that's exactly what I do. I'm just annoyed of comments being flooded with what is real dubstep and what is not, instead of concentrating on the song, that is all. I'm speaking for a lot of us

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Post by Morike » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:02 am

For me its not the ''modern'' dubstep that gets me...its the scene thats followed, and i think why people on here get so worked up about it is, The ''old school'' heads listen to dubstep because they love it, Where people that are more into the ''filthy'' stuff are only listening because its whats in and ''cool '' at the moment, I seriously do reakon this will all die down in a few years, or its just gonna get crazy out of control and all the kids are gonna be jumping around to weird skretching noises with no kicks or anything....oh wait..?

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Post by Raggles » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:35 am

Why do I waste my time reading these threads?
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Post by Maccaveli » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:39 am

You're kind of working against your own point by implying that all modern stuff sounds the same...

This came out in 2010, the same year Skrillex blew up:


Its 'modern', but does it fit your idea of 'modern sound'? Please just stop referring to it as 'modern' like all dubstep that's come out in the past few years is midrange wobble shit... besides, midrange wobbles have been around since like 2007, so its hardly the newest sound of dubstep

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Post by brasco » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:14 pm

Raggles wrote:Why do I waste my time reading these threads?
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the screechy yoi sound wont be here in a couple of years, it's already saturated with copycats as it is... so just ride the storm :corndance:
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Post by Maccaveli » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:47 pm

Also why the fuck is there a comma in the thread title?

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Post by Lectric » Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:26 pm

The filth war is a phase. itll pass over like leggings and heelys. only because people dont listen to it because they love the music, but because the scene is kids who want to play something at houseparties thatll melt everyones brains, and they think thats cool.

dubstep however will live a ling long time, because people listen for the music, the emotion, and the love of sound.\

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Post by fractal » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:23 pm

How is one the old sound and the other the new sound when neither sound like og dubstep? Idc what people listen to, but I'm sick of people acting like 1) these are the only two sounds and 2) that either of these sounds is what dubstep sounded like at it's genesis. Crazy wobbly dubstep has been around for just as long as deep meditative dubstep, it's just real popular with students and kids these days is all.
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Post by Teknicyde » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:58 pm

FuDuzn wrote:
Teknicyde wrote:Its brostep and dubstep bro did you miss this bulletin?
Like I said, 'Old Guard'(and yes I know he joined just before me, but he represents my point)
I joined in 08, just changed usernames recently ;-)

Also if you took that as me being one of the 'old guard' types... I happily produce aggressive 140bpm industrial/dnb/breakcore influence music... and most people would call it brostep... so I embrace the word. Dont take it as an insult it wont be an insult. Bit like all the interpretations of successful androgynous person.
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Post by mIrReN » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:59 pm

Fractal
every thread u always have to say what I think (no really, I just never know how to phrase it untill I see ur post)

it's getting annoying :( but yeah

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Post by Teknicyde » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:05 pm

Lectric wrote:The filth war is a phase. itll pass over like leggings and heelys. only because people dont listen to it because they love the music, but because the scene is kids who want to play something at houseparties thatll melt everyones brains, and they think thats cool.

Says who man? Who are you to judge whether or not I love my own music? WTF is that? You suppose if it was all about bookings, Id turn those down? Nah.

Lumping the entire aggressive, wobbly crowd in with idot toss-offs that have been into this for 2 months and will be out again in 2 more isnt cool. Just because things took an evolutionary turn doesnt mean it did it because noone loved the sound.

I assure you, I and alot of other brostep producers, like what I make, know my history, have been here since before dubstep was the powerhouse it is and arent going anywhere once it fades away.

Dont pass judgement on an entire crowd, sweeping generalization style. S'called being biggoted.

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Post by GothamHero » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:27 pm

Teknicyde wrote:
Lectric wrote:The filth war is a phase. itll pass over like leggings and heelys. only because people dont listen to it because they love the music, but because the scene is kids who want to play something at houseparties thatll melt everyones brains, and they think thats cool.

Says who man? Who are you to judge whether or not I love my own music? WTF is that? You suppose if it was all about bookings, Id turn those down? Nah.

Lumping the entire aggressive, wobbly crowd in with idot toss-offs that have been into this for 2 months and will be out again in 2 more isnt cool. Just because things took an evolutionary turn doesnt mean it did it because noone loved the sound.

I assure you, I and alot of other brostep producers, like what I make, know my history, have been here since before dubstep was the powerhouse it is and arent going anywhere once it fades away.

Dont pass judgement on an entire crowd, sweeping generalization style. S'called being biggoted.
No it isn't, it's called being bigoted :W:

Sorry, I saw a random comma in the middle of the title and I hate to put on my obsessive grammar pants. I agree with the majority of what you said, but I fear you're giving brostep producers a little too much credit, probably because you're making a generalisation based on your own experience. Most of them do not know their history, at all. A majority have not been there since Dubstep was a powerhouse, at all. I think they'll move onto the next phase if it does fade away. Hopefully it doesn't, as I like that bro stuff.
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