Hard bass makers.

[stix235]

so i'm new to making dubstep. Had some experience with making and mixing tracks before. I figured i would come here to look around and see what programs i could use. I see that Logic and Reason are two really big makers here. Are these the makers i should be using ? if not what other ones should i use? Also i was wondering if anyone here could give me some beginner tips. it would be much appreciated

[mikeyp]

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=159713

[nashley]

Those are DAW's what really going to make the bass is sound design.
Checkout Massive, Albino, FM8 and Ableton Lives Operator are a few well known software synths

[zerbaman]

I'm sorry but Dubturbo has GOT to be the best out there.

[stix235]

i've gotten mixed reviews about it

[nashley]

FL Studio or Live 8 are the two most intuitive in my opinion

[Jacob15728]

Zerbaman is trolling, Dubturbo is a complete piece of shit and we universally agree on that here. Any of the DAW's (Logic, Reason, FL Studio, Ableton, Reaper, Cubase) are good enough to make dubstep very well, it's all down to personal preference. A few things to note are that Reason doesn't support VST's so you can't use your own synths/effects with it. That's not too big of a deal since it comes with a lot of high-quality synths and effects. Logic only works on Macs. Cubase is usually considered to be very non-user friendly. Reaper is free, so that might be the one to try.

It doesn't really matter what DAW you use. What matters is what VST's you're using (most people here use Massive or Albino), or if you're using Reason then the synths that come with it. And most importantly, the skill of the producer. A good producer can make good songs with cheap equipment, but a bad producer won't be able to make anything good even if they have a bunch of expensive, high-end stuff.

[bigfootspartan]

i've gotten mixed reviews about it

Have you seen the page selling dubturbo? There's obviously tons of people who thinks it's amazing! It'll get you making beats that your friends are insanely jealous of!

[stix235]

thanks jacob very helpful input. and if dubturbo is seen that way around here then i'm not gonna waste my time on it

[Teknicyde]

Zerbaman is trolling, Dubturbo is a complete piece of shit and we universally agree on that here. Any of the DAW's (Logic, Reason, FL Studio, Ableton, Reaper, Cubase) are good enough to make dubstep very well, it's all down to personal preference. A few things to note are that Reason doesn't support VST's so you can't use your own synths/effects with it. That's not too big of a deal since it comes with a lot of high-quality synths and effects. Logic only works on Macs. Cubase is usually considered to be very non-user friendly. Reaper is free, so that might be the one to try.

It doesn't really matter what DAW you use. What matters is what VST's you're using (most people here use Massive or Albino), or if you're using Reason then the synths that come with it. And most importantly, the skill of the producer. A good producer can make good songs with cheap equipment, but a bad producer won't be able to make anything good even if they have a bunch of expensive, high-end stuff.

it doesnt matter if you use massive, thats one of the richer comments Ive read today.

[Jacob15728]

Zerbaman is trolling, Dubturbo is a complete piece of shit and we universally agree on that here. Any of the DAW's (Logic, Reason, FL Studio, Ableton, Reaper, Cubase) are good enough to make dubstep very well, it's all down to personal preference. A few things to note are that Reason doesn't support VST's so you can't use your own synths/effects with it. That's not too big of a deal since it comes with a lot of high-quality synths and effects. Logic only works on Macs. Cubase is usually considered to be very non-user friendly. Reaper is free, so that might be the one to try.

It doesn't really matter what DAW you use. What matters is what VST's you're using (most people here use Massive or Albino), or if you're using Reason then the synths that come with it. And most importantly, the skill of the producer. A good producer can make good songs with cheap equipment, but a bad producer won't be able to make anything good even if they have a bunch of expensive, high-end stuff.

it doesnt matter if you use massive, thats one of the richer comments Ive read today.

I said it matters what VST you're using. It doesn't have to be Massive. You can make good sounds in Massive, Albino, Sylenth1, FM8, Thor, whatever the hell you want. My point is that it's helpful to have high-quality VST's instead of the ones that come with your DAW, and the VST's you're using are more important to your sound that your DAW.

[oprs]

I will never agree with someone who thinks 808 packs have no bass.

[Jacob15728]

I will never agree with someone who thinks 808 packs have no bass.

Seriously bringing that up again? 808s have a ton of bass. What I said was that they're not snappy or punchy. They're just a low sine wave. I usually have to layer them with a sampled kick so I can get both the low bass and the punch.

[oprs]

i will pee on you, to the beat of my 808 bounce.

[kejk]

I'm sorry but Dubturbo has GOT to be the best out there.

I had to look that up... That's probably the single worst DAW (It's not even a DAW lol) I've ever seen hahaha it seems the loop function doesn't even work properly - there's like a delay every time it loops I laughed so hard x)

Especially considering there is great freeware (reaper) out there!

[mks]

Why does everyone keep calling Reaper free? I mean they have an unlimited demo and all and really at only $60, you should probably just buy it if you use it. Or else they might not stick around as a company and offer upgrades and support.

It's still cheaper than all of the other DAW's.

[zerbaman]

Zerbaman is trolling, Dubturbo is a complete piece of shit and we universally agree on that here.

Well it's no fun if you tell him




But seriously
You'd be best off starting on something like Abelton or FL Studio. Of the things I've tested, these are the easiest to get into IMO. I learned everything I know on FL, not that I bear any worth to the music industry, but I know for a fact loads of Successful producers today did the same. And from there I had Abelton down in a matter of mins tbh. It's all about how you like to work. FL is good for keeping things simpler with set patterns etc, and abelton has that feature, plus the ability to edit said patterns without having to make several versions of them. That being said, if your computer screen is small, you'll have a pretty difficult time of telling your variations apart. I personally prefer FL, but that's because I've used it for 3 years.

If you're on MAC, it may be worth giving Logic a crack. It's "Industry Standard" according to my old music tech teacher. And it is pretty nice in terms of stock synths & effects.

[Dystinkt]

Zerbaman is trolling, Dubturbo is a complete piece of shit and we universally agree on that here.

Well it's no fun if you tell him




But seriously
You'd be best off starting on something like Abelton or FL Studio. Of the things I've tested, these are the easiest to get into IMO. I learned everything I know on FL, not that I bear any worth to the music industry, but I know for a fact loads of Successful producers today did the same. And from there I had Abelton down in a matter of mins tbh. It's all about how you like to work. FL is good for keeping things simpler with set patterns etc, and abelton has that feature, plus the ability to edit said patterns without having to make several versions of them. That being said, if your computer screen is small, you'll have a pretty difficult time of telling your variations apart. I personally prefer FL, but that's because I've used it for 3 years.

If you're on MAC, it may be worth giving Logic a crack. It's "Industry Standard" according to my old music tech teacher. And it is pretty nice in terms of stock synths & effects.

My music tech teacher says ableton is industry standard, why can't the industry just make its fucking mind up here..

On a serious note though zerbas right. Fl or Ableton are good starting points, for the aforementioned reasons. I've also yet to see anything as good as or even similar to FL's step sequencer in any other DAW either, Benga programs his beats in it for a reason man. But in the end it really doesnt matter a jot what you use, its your ideas and technical ability that matter the most as a producer. My laptop screen doesnt actually work and I have to plug it in to a separate monitor but I can still crank tunes out of it, they aren't great tunes but it serves my point. Learn to produce, then by the time you have money for high end gear, you won't even need it.

[jrisreal]

Zerbaman is trolling, Dubturbo is a complete piece of shit and we universally agree on that here.

Well it's no fun if you tell him




But seriously
You'd be best off starting on something like Abelton or FL Studio. Of the things I've tested, these are the easiest to get into IMO. I learned everything I know on FL, not that I bear any worth to the music industry, but I know for a fact loads of Successful producers today did the same. And from there I had Abelton down in a matter of mins tbh. It's all about how you like to work. FL is good for keeping things simpler with set patterns etc, and abelton has that feature, plus the ability to edit said patterns without having to make several versions of them. That being said, if your computer screen is small, you'll have a pretty difficult time of telling your variations apart. I personally prefer FL, but that's because I've used it for 3 years.

If you're on MAC, it may be worth giving Logic a crack. It's "Industry Standard" according to my old music tech teacher. And it is pretty nice in terms of stock synths & effects.

My music tech teacher says ableton is industry standard, why can't the industry just make its fucking mind up here..

On a serious note though zerbas right. Fl or Ableton are good starting points, for the aforementioned reasons. I've also yet to see anything as good as or even similar to FL's step sequencer in any other DAW either, Benga programs his beats in it for a reason man. But in the end it really doesnt matter a jot what you use, its your ideas and technical ability that matter the most as a producer. My laptop screen doesnt actually work and I have to plug it in to a separate monitor but I can still crank tunes out of it, they aren't great tunes but it serves my point. Learn to produce, then by the time you have money for high end gear, you won't even need it.

words of wisdom right here.

[Teknicyde]

Zerbaman is trolling, Dubturbo is a complete piece of shit and we universally agree on that here. Any of the DAW's (Logic, Reason, FL Studio, Ableton, Reaper, Cubase) are good enough to make dubstep very well, it's all down to personal preference. A few things to note are that Reason doesn't support VST's so you can't use your own synths/effects with it. That's not too big of a deal since it comes with a lot of high-quality synths and effects. Logic only works on Macs. Cubase is usually considered to be very non-user friendly. Reaper is free, so that might be the one to try.

It doesn't really matter what DAW you use. What matters is what VST's you're using (most people here use Massive or Albino), or if you're using Reason then the synths that come with it. And most importantly, the skill of the producer. A good producer can make good songs with cheap equipment, but a bad producer won't be able to make anything good even if they have a bunch of expensive, high-end stuff.

it doesnt matter if you use massive, thats one of the richer comments Ive read today.

I said it matters what VST you're using. It doesn't have to be Massive. You can make good sounds in Massive, Albino, Sylenth1, FM8, Thor, whatever the hell you want. My point is that it's helpful to have high-quality VST's instead of the ones that come with your DAW, and the VST's you're using are more important to your sound that your DAW.

I know what you said and i disagree with it thoroughly.

Theres some crazy equation full of greek stuff that proves you wrong essentially.

Its a bunch of waveforms, any synth capable of generating a sine wave at x. frequency is PERFECTLY capable of making ANY sound. ALL SOUNDS ARE COLLECTIONS OF INTERACTING SINES. Even other simple-ish waveshapes, like squares and saws, are in fact additive collections of sines. This little fact means that your synth DOESNT MATTER AT ALL. its your knowledge of SYNTHESIS that does.