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The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by knell » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:14 pm

Any idea how to do it? is it a production technique or just a sample that I can't find?

if you're confused, it's a snare similar to the one in this song -----> http://mad-hop.bandcamp.com/track/lambe ... after-song

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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by Teknicyde » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:35 pm

Layer a bunch of claps... shuffle them around a wee bit.

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Post by djbmc » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:59 pm

it's the same clap twice, one has been pitched down, there's panning involved aswell. edit: it might not be the exact same clap but it's fairly similar, pitch one down anyway....
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Post by Insahn » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:03 pm

This might sound weird, but step on a branch and record the sound of it snapping. Layer that with a clap or two, and voila. I read somewhere that Eskmo does this. I've tried it myself, and honestly, it's pretty close to what you're trying to do. You might be able to find branch sounds on freesound.org if you don't have anything to record with.

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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by knell » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:37 pm

nice one, thanks guys... yeah i actually tried leaves crunching and stuff on freesound before i posted this, i've been trying for ages but can never get it to sound quite right, the pitching is definitely a good idea

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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by oWLinDaylight » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:21 pm

Try recording or finding some sounds of biting into crunchy food. You can get some super crunchy sounds with an interesting attack and decay. Like the sample in the song below, which is one of my favorite snare samples(if you can even call it a snare). I love the way it moves around the mix while its playing.

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Post by the_agonist » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:17 pm

knell wrote:Any idea how to do it? is it a production technique or just a sample that I can't find?

if you're confused, it's a snare similar to the one in this song -----> http://mad-hop.bandcamp.com/track/lambe ... after-song
i'm all into lo-fi, and it's a lovely piece of music, really is, but that production is bordering on crap...

i'm sure the next big thing will be recording onto a dictaphone...in a shed.

sorry.

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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by Steve_French » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:50 am

get a field mic and stand on snail shells, and normal shells ;)

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Post by apoplexiamusic » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:29 am

if you're on Ableton, i like using Clapbox from Pure Magnetik (get that here: http://www.puremagnetik.com/index.php?o ... Itemid=217) which is a free live rack! you can then strap on a grain delay with the delay time set to around 30-50ms and the spray and frequency parameters in the first third of the slider, and play around with the wet/dry...automate tohose parameters slowly for an evolving tone

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Post by Electric_Head » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:07 pm

cool track
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Post by Ascian » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:18 pm

That Amon Tobin track is sick... Always wondered how to create that sound in the intro, Eskmo does it too

Going to post in the make this sound thread about it now

I made a layered, textured snare in this tune:

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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by oWLinDaylight » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:32 pm

@knell- check out the sound kit from Drake's producer that somebody posted. He has a good snare in there made from layered claps that sounds similar to the one used in that track you posted.

I found a couple good crunchy samples on freesound.org:
steps in a forest
eating chips
twig snap

If anyone else has found any good samples on freesound or recorded their own and is willing to post them here it would be much appreciated. Im going to be doing some field recording in the woods later so I'll be able to post some of my own tonight.
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Post by Turnipish_Thoughts » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:47 pm

oWLinDaylight wrote:
One of the best tracks I've heard. :z: This producer should be locked in a room with skrillex equipped with a syringe of LSD and his favourite daw... for as long as it takes :6:
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Post by SunkLo » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:53 pm

Turnipish Thoughts wrote:This producer should be locked in a room with skrillex equipped with a syringe of LSD and his favourite daw... for as long as it takes :6:
Yeah except Skrillex's syringe is filled with cyanide.
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Post by wormcode » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:41 am

SunkLo wrote:
Turnipish Thoughts wrote:This producer should be locked in a room with skrillex equipped with a syringe of LSD and his favourite daw... for as long as it takes :6:
Yeah except Skrillex's syringe is filled with cyanide.
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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by um4mi » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:25 am

Teknicyde wrote:Layer a bunch of claps... shuffle them around a wee bit.
If you want to hear an example of this you can hear it on this track:

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i think it sounds quite similar to what you are trying to achieve.

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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by donpablo » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:39 pm

look in hip hop packs like 9th wonder,50 cent,theres plenty of similair claps there

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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by Chris mack » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:45 am

First answer is the best one. Just layer some claps and put one slightly behind and some slightly infront to taste. Don't need to stand on branches or shells unless you are really going for that super natural sound.
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Re: The "crumbling" clap/snare...

Post by Cyma » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:36 pm

The Amon Tobin sound has some lead in and lead out in the crumbling sound. I'm sure you could get something cool by layering any number of impact elements and texture elements. The other way to a really crumbly clap is a grain delay. Short delay time, medium feedback, spray and grains to taste. Instant crumble! ;-)
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