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Sparxy
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by Sparxy » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:07 am
dalvare1 wrote:Sparxy wrote:dalvare1 wrote:Sparxy wrote:
Haha! I have Flux bittersweet. It's dead simple to use. Transient shaper does exactly that - it will bring out the transient "hit" of sometihng, making it stronger, sharper, more "hitty". OR hide the transient, making it duller and less obvious. Flux bittersweet has a dial that goes either way so its really easy to see and hear whats going on. Instead of effecting the dynamic range of a sound like a compressor it tends to only effect the initial "hit" of a sound. It works on stuff that his "hitty" if that makes sense, like hats, drums, piano
Using it on the kick tends to make it more "hitty" and impactful. Its emphasising the initial smack of the kick. makes it sound punchier, seems to add top end hit whilst trimming off some of the fat, without effecting the overall character of the kick
Easiest way to learn is to get a transient shaper, put it on something and experiement

my initial comment still stands, becuase if you'd have done what I said and listened you would understand what its doing immediately
is that more helpful?
yea thx brah
any reccomendations for one to get started with? Doesnt ableton have a stock one? or a demo/free VST?
As you may have guessed, i havent tried doing this before so kinda starting at square 0
while you are here, how do you feel about high passing your sub as mentioned above? I have always been low passing. Feel like im missing something
I use Ableton as well. I don't think it has a transient shaper built in. Flux bittersweet is freeware though
http://www.fluxhome.com/products/freewares/bittersweet2
Basically with the sub you wanna cut anything above 80 to 90hz, depending on what your melody is with it and where your kick is sitting. It's not going to dramatically change your sound but what you're doing is cutting out harmonics that aren't needed to save some headroom and stop the sub from interfering with any of the other elements in your track.
**edit** ive just realised what youre referring to. I said high pass initially didn't I? I meant lowpass lol. although there's no harm in highpassing anything under 20hz, will save you some headroom since everything under 20hz is inaudible to the human ear anyway.
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Warwolt
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by Warwolt » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:30 am
Jacob15728 wrote:EQing is only for vague, subtle tweaks like boost the highs a bit, cut the mids a bit, etc. if you want to remove precise frequencies, use sidechain multiband compression
How can you not be able to cut out specific frequencies with an EQ? Just take a bell shape and crank the Q. A multiband compressor doesn't even have anything to do NEAR a mixing sessions, its a precision-tool for mastering engineers.
Burial isnt dubstep, fuck off.
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symmetricalsounds
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by symmetricalsounds » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:35 am
like most tools i wouldn't say multiband compression has no place near a mixing session but it's pretty rare the times you would need one. personally i don't think it's needed by mastering engineers a lot of the time either.
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ARTFX
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by ARTFX » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:41 am
As already said, it totally matters what kind of bass sound and what other sounds are in the track. Everything is different.
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dalvare1
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by dalvare1 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:39 pm
Sparxy wrote:I use Ableton as well. I don't think it has a transient shaper built in. Flux bittersweet is freeware though
http://www.fluxhome.com/products/freewares/bittersweet2
Basically with the sub you wanna cut anything above 80 to 90hz, depending on what your melody is with it and where your kick is sitting. It's not going to dramatically change your sound but what you're doing is cutting out harmonics that aren't needed to save some headroom and stop the sub from interfering with any of the other elements in your track.
**edit** ive just realised what youre referring to. I said high pass initially didn't I? I meant lowpass lol. although there's no harm in highpassing anything under 20hz, will save you some headroom since everything under 20hz is inaudible to the human ear anyway.
Oh ok cool, that makes sense on the subs ha
Thanks for the leads on the shapers. Im going to try that out this weekend,
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Augment
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by Augment » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:13 pm
Dowloaded the shaper and a stereo tool since it was freeware. Thanks for the tip

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by jrisreal » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:32 pm
Sidechain eq'ing is good for mixes IMO. For instance, put an notch on the drums where the subbass lies, but sidechain it to the subbass so that when the sub isnt playing, the kick will take up those frequencies. Also, I cut out areas of the spectrum where my drum sounds hit from the other instruments in the track, but sidechain those cuts so that those frequencies are only cut when that drum sound hits. etc. etc. etc.
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by ShapeSHIFT » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:28 am
I do the opposite man. I sidechain my sub so the kick always comes through.
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