Artists ... would you pay for Soundcloud training?

[AxeD]

Soundcloud was a way to share music with like minded, not a hype machine. My Opinion, I'm sure there will be people willing to spend money as a way of furthering their dubstep careers.

A lot of people see the amount of followers or plays someone has on SC as a 'grade' for said dj/producer.
Played a little night yesterday and people were talking about exactly that. I don't agree but that's our culture these days.

[GV1]

Nope. I don't need 100 people to tell me my shit music is good. This scheme will only waste producers time. If your music is good it will get comments if not no point faking it.

Lol, you and a few others are getting it twisted. This isn't about faking it. If your music is shit, the comments you get will say so. You won't get REAL followers that actually enjoy your music. The accounts we ran tests with were using tracks by producers who don't produce for an electronic genre.

This is about creating exposure. Pushing your name out there.

You cannot expect to create a track, upload it to YouTube or SoundCloud and expect to get millions of fans because you're track sounds good.

There is a saying in marketing, and it relates to anything. You could have the best product in the world, but if it's not being placed into the hands of the consumers it's a waste of time.

The same goes with music. You could be {INSERT BIG PRODUCERS NAME} but without exposure you're music won't get heard. If you don't want your music to be heard, than that's fine. But if you want to spread your name out there, get people talking about your music, you need exposure. exposure. exposure. exposure.

Speak to marketers that work in music and media. Speak to companies that charge you hundreds or thousands for exposure. You're not going to get it by uploading a track and hoping for the best.

What's wrong with culture these days is they think {INSERT ARTISTS NAME THAT GOT FAME FROM YOUTUBE} got famous because he uploaded a few videos and magically got millions of views.

This is the Internet. Exposure on the Internet is worth more than radio air play. Minus the royalties.

@gnome: You're assuming I'm creating software to turn shit music into popular music. You need to have a great product beforehand for this to work.

[kingGhost]

SO your software will spam shares on forums, blogs etc to get more listens - and possibly more comments? yea sounds totally legit bro. doesn't sound like botting at all

i swear you could do well to go dig ditches for a year. you seem completely foreign to good old fashioned hard work. work hard and get good at producing. if you have songwriting skills you will undoubtedly make good tunes. get signed, tour, sell records.

or just download a cracked version of massive and pay this tnuc $97 to get 2000 soundcloud comments on your brostep track

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[kingGhost]

it's people like you why a few hours ago i got a fucking spam text about refinancing my fucking mortgage

i don't even have a god damned mortgage. INTERNET VIRAL marketing and advertising... careers for the lazy pissant idiots of the world

go make fake tumblrs and reblog shit and god damned stop posting on this forum

[SunkLo]

He is right regarding the exposure. Making music you enjoy is great but if you want to have people hear it or make any sort of money from it you need to market yourself. I'm sure there's producers out there who spend time they could be using to make music to comment other peoples' tunes and otherwise network and promo their music. There's a large barrier to getting people to play your tunes and as long as the quality's there, anything that gets you more exposure and buzz would be helpful.

You don't even know what the technique is so you can't just assume it's gonna be spamming a bunch of "Check out my tunez!!!" links everywhere. Even if it were, does that make it worse than people who do it manually?

[GV1]

SO your software will spam shares on forums, blogs etc to get more listens - and possibly more comments? yea sounds totally legit bro. doesn't sound like botting at all

i swear you could do well to go dig ditches for a year. you seem completely foreign to good old fashioned hard work. work hard and get good at producing. if you have songwriting skills you will undoubtedly make good tunes. get signed, tour, sell records.

or just download a cracked version of massive and pay this tnuc $97 to get 2000 soundcloud comments on your brostep track

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Cool story bro. More dragons next time.

[Ferryman]

Hmm. Could be interesting. I'd like to see a demo first....

[incnic]

a variation on the social kik / twitter autofollow / etc etc shit / autotumblr repost script

SCAM

[incnic]

if you are looking for this kind of shit trick to get more plays subcontract some peasant on fiverr.com to do it for you for err a fiver.

[LA_Boxers]

If its legit, then it sounds like quite a good idea. I know personally that when people hear our tracks they are 99% of the time positive. However its getting people to hear it in the first place. If its not some kinda spam thing and it does actually get your music to people who appreciate it then I'm all for it.......however I think $97 is a steep.

[Ferryman]

If its legit, then it sounds like quite a good idea. I know personally that when people hear our tracks they are 99% of the time positive. However its getting people to hear it in the first place. If its not some kinda spam thing and it does actually get your music to people who appreciate it then I'm all for it.......however I think $97 is a steep.

Tend to agree with this really, 497 seems a weird price, too. I would say $59 / £30 would be a nice price for such a product. Assuming it is what GV1 says it is...

[cogidubnus]

No, is the simple answer

[zerbaman]

GV1, I'm wondering, have you actually tested this method?
Why don't you apply it to yourself?


Not trying to be a dick, just seems like a bad business plan to go into something asking for investments when you have no proof of a working product/service if you get what I mean?

[a-sek]

Dunno why but reading this thread made me think of this..

[Pistonsbeneath]

i hate soundcloud

managed to get attention without it so its not essential

[oski]

Not right now as i don't feel my productions are of the quality to upload them onto soundcloud, let alone try and get attention.

i think $100 is a bit much, but i definitely see the benefits, a mate of mine has some very good productions but they get no exposure because he doesn't have time to push them.

[magma]

Marketing is important... marketing through generic channels (which this would no doubt become if people take it up) isn't terribly effective though. People get very good at ignoring spam once they've realised it's spam.

Smacks of someone desperately trying to figure out a way to make money out of other people's enthusiasm, to be honest. Colour me sceptical.

[staticcast]

fuck that shit

write good music instead

[Riddles]

It sounds interesting, I'm loving all the people saying just make good music, people really have no idea about marketing. Whether you like it or not, if you have the best product in the world and have shit marketing you won't sell fuck all.
As for soundcloud, I would say most people use it to put their music on and to listen to famous producers' new bits, not to find small and unknown artists.
That said, I really don't know how thisll work but if its legit its a good shout and for like 60 quid its not too bad.

[therapist]

You don't need SC training, you just need to be a beast.

You could have biggest tree in the forest but if nobody's there to hear it fall it's not making a sound.

Oh fuck not this again.

In general the more tags a song has on the soundcloud the more inane and fanboy-ish the comments seem to be.