Turntables

lohan · Post by **lohan** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:15 pm

Just bought a pair of 1210's, 6 months old, spanking nick, with a numark dm 3000x mixer..
£400.

Trust me, dont get caught up with the specs, torque, this that whatever, it's all about technics mate! Especially if you want to get into a bit of turntablism.

lol @ deepsix, had to scrape pizza out of em? bloody hell mate.

distance · Post by **distance** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:29 pm

Technics!!! No question.

Vestax PDX 2000s are a mission. Recently played a set where there was one 1210 and one PDX2000, the motor in the PDX is so strong you cant slow it down by running your finger over the platter. I also had a pair of Stanton STR100's to start off with, I sold them as soon as I mixed on Technics. Dont waste your time or money... if it means saving then I suggest saving.

My

Worth!

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:50 pm

So just to recap technics are quite good? maybe he'll get technics

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:59 pm

Distance wrote:Technics!!! No question.

Vestax PDX 2000s are a mission. Recently played a set where there was one 1210 and one PDX2000, the motor in the PDX is so strong you cant slow it down by running your finger over the platter. I also had a pair of Stanton STR100's to start off with, I sold them as soon as I mixed on Technics. Dont waste your time or money... if it means saving then I suggest saving.

Yeah mate, those things are mad. They're like fucking cement mixers!
You just can't stop them.
Which is ok most of the time, but if you have a 'spindle-gripper' record on them then good luck...
...and be careful not to lose a finger.

I started with the shittest belt-drives ever. They taught me how to mix on any old pieces of shite, which was handy.
But if this isn't that important to you, technics are a solid shout.

Got my 1210s a couple of years ago second-hand for £350 (with flight cases), and they are sweet.

Nothing else I've tried has been as easy to mix on. The only thing I don't like is the "quartz" lock thing on the pitch slider, but that can get taken out.

viceroy · Post by **viceroy** » Wed May 31, 2006 6:57 pm

gravious wrote:
Nothing else I've tried has been as easy to mix on. The only thing I don't like is the "quartz" lock thing on the pitch slider, but that can get taken out.

Nice, I used someones that had the button to turn it off. Im going to look into that.

paperboy · Post by **paperboy** » Wed May 31, 2006 7:01 pm

If anyones arsed i have a pair of 1210 mk2 for sale.
2 x 1210 mk2 (v.good condition)
1x numark dm950 mixer (new, boxed)
£350 all in.
This is a good price, i just want to get shut. Tryin to get the dough up for a new submariner. I will do a private auction on ebay if anyone fancies ago.
Collection would be sweet (Brighton). UK mail £30ish. Too heavy to fly really.
Thanks.

deepsix · Post by **deepsix** » Wed May 31, 2006 8:27 pm

lol we need to start a buy and sell forum for this kind of stuff.

Vinyl, DJing equipment, Production gear, etc.

baddie · Post by **baddie** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:54 am

Hate Recordings wrote:technics

with technics, you NEVER have to worry about this. the motor that powers the plate is so powerful, it just cant be matched. you press down on a record, stop it, let go of the record and it goes back to regular speed immediately. it might not sound like an important thing, but i cannot stress how important this is. it is the motor that is inside the techs that makes it the only choice as far as owning a turntable is concerned.

yeah thats what I wanted to know... thanx for the advice everyone. I'm going to look for some second hand technics...

deepsix · Post by **deepsix** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:23 am

Technically, it doesn't actually go back instantly - I'm not sure if Hate has ever used a PDX-2000 or a TTX-1, but those are both faster to lock to the pitch after changing speeds.

jack sparrow1 · Post by **jack sparrow1** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:04 pm

i have pdx 2000 mk1 at home and they are great for quick mixes,i really like the pitch fader.

technics offer solidarity and no boomy mdf on mixes

randomhed · Post by **randomhed** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:19 pm

Couple of years back i bought 2 Stanton 8 100s sort of mid range decks because i didnt wanna pay out that sort of money for technics. Im gonna get myself a pair of technics soon so it would have been cheaper for me just to get them in the first place. The stantons are alright, they do the job but technics just feel that much better.

As mentioned above either save up for em or go for 2nd hand.

7 below · Post by **7 below** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:24 pm

All about Vestax for home use, the only thing technics have over them is durability - which normally isn't something you need to worry about outside the club.

Just make sure all your 'spindle grippers' have been sanded a bit so that they move...

logos · Post by **logos** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:01 pm

As many have said...technics technics tecnics.

They are a design classic and basically are unchanged technology since their inception over 30 odd years ago.

Its not worth getting something cheaper...cos the first time you get a proper gig and go into a club your whole set will be a nightmare because you'll have to get used to the feel of 1210s.

cuntry_gent · Post by **cuntry_gent** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:17 pm

technics. (i have vestax, and as much as i love em they aren't practical when ur gonna 99.9% of the time be playin on 1210s)

.rudetone. · Post by **.rudetone.** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:40 pm

Technics...dont EVEN THINK about gettin anything else....wish i had thought about it before i bought geminis a few years back!

kloski · Post by **kloski** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:21 pm

hm thought to buy some stanton t120c..... :-/

digital · Post by **digital** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:26 pm

Technics all day long

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:44 pm

unlikely wrote:up til recently I would have agreed on the technics front.. their installed in any club you're going to play in so you might as well get to know them

however i have recently discovered the full potential of my pdx 2000s, better pitch, higher torque wider pich control, and unlike any other genre of music having instant start up and reverse is actually quite crazy with dubstep and grime and opens a whole new book o mixing. They don't sit into a mix and stay there quite like technics but we all need practice right?

BAM. i have played on technics for over 12 years, and they ARE the industry standard with massive torque, so that would be my recommendation off the bat (usually just a matter of keeping your ear to the ground to find a used pair as well).

but i have also played on the vestax pdx2000s, and i gotta say, they are solid. the wider pitch control is certainly a perk, as is the reverse, and anyone who says they don't have the torque of the technics hasn't played on them...pure and simple.

but i will also throw my 3 cents in on learning on shite tables. i learned on two garage sale tables, one direct drive, one belt, both with little dials for pitch and plastic tonearms. utter shite. BUT...i figured out how to do it, and played on them for 3 years. NO ONE else could play on my decks but me, and i could rock them. so whenever i played out on technics, it was like i had been jogging with weights on my ankles and someone had taken them off. plus, if they were shitty technics, i could still compensate because they still could not be shitter than mine at home.

those beginnings have proven invaluable throughout the years, as i have been able to rock sets on decks the other djs (who had only played on technics) threw fits about, some even refusing to play on. i still maintain that if you can learn on shit, the rest is gravy.

so the long and the short of it is, even if you cannot get the top of the line decks, if you have the will to learn and the creativity to overcome the limitations of cheaper decks, you are learning how to be an all-round solid dj, regardless of equipment. it may just be the most important lesson you will ever learn as a dj.

human? · Post by **human?** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:57 pm

had technics for years, love em, no complaints really... one even got tossed as a weapon in a bar fight and continued working...

now i have pdx 2000s, and they have their ups and downs...

torque is great... can start & stop way faster than technics... the not being able to fine adjust by touching the platter hasnt really been a thing, ive adjusted..

the wide (and its seriously fucking wide) pitch control is the biggest plus imo, pretty much makes possible mixing anything with.... anything..

2 problems that i have tho... and technics win this angle...

you cant turn off the TT and let it do that technic style slow down to stop.

there are adjustable knobs for start & stop, so you CAN get that effect, but the knobs are tiny and i can never tell what they are set at, i def prefer technics in this respect, i love knowing what its gonna sound like when i hit stop, and love the on off knob on the technics... which brings me to the other problem...

the pdx2000s have a power switch, like literally a switch, and one of my tables switches has been shorting out... hasnt died totally yet, but i worry everytime i turn it off that its not gonna come back on

on/off switch on the technics is far superior imo...

but yeah the super pitch is fun, and the torque is all good...

oh and one thing vestax def does, and i have no idea why technic doesnt (because ive always had this problem) is RCA & ground that are NOT wired into the TT. my technic RCA cables def all died, and getting that fixed is a pain in the ass, and especially more nowadays, because if not fixed properly, Serato will not work...

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product · Post by **product** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:20 pm

there's always used technics to be had. and you can pretty much guarantee they'll work fine (unless there's some serious cosmetic issues, then there might be an abuse problem). i got my set for $450. had a stupid sticker on one of em, other than that they were brand new.

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