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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by fragments » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:55 am

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fragments wrote:Did you check ALL your connections? that could be a ground loop issue and not the monitors... had this problem myself...fixed it with checking all the connections from wall plugs to all cords plugged into computer and soundcard and monitors + a ground loop interrupter. Getting a power conditioner to plug your whole system into will help this as well.
yeah i've tried them in different power sockets, and even tried removing the earth pin to see if it made a difference. i had a ground loop from the pc to the speakers which i solved by earthing the card, but that was a separate issue(i could hear cpu whine and hard drive noise through the monitors).

this is just a hiss, like high pitched white noise. its not overly loud, just annoying as i can hear it when i'm sat up close. i can't hear it if i'm further away, but the point in nearfield monitors is to be near them. and the hiss is louder in the replacement speaker than the other one, which is why i thought it must be the speaker.

so basically i've had 2 dodgy krk's and can't be bothered to send it back. i'd be without a monitor for a few days which would suck. i'm just not very impressed with them, although everyone else seems to like them. i'll go for a more expensive brand in the future, and keep the krk's as a secondary monitor to check mixes on.

Huh. Damn. Sucks man. I resolved the issue completely in my KRK 6's. But agreed...would like to save for a better set and keep the KRK's so I can A/B.
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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:57 am

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by Towany » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:59 pm

Hey lads so i got my krk 6s after and they sound horrible, there is a nasty buzzing coming out of both speakers. When i turn the music up its like listening to a radio station with barely any signal. The both of them are brand new straight out of the box and i got them from Thomann, what do you think I should do.

Here is my setup: Macbook pro 2011, maudio fastrack pro connected to my krks via trs balanced to xlr.

I haven't touched the db settings on the back of either speaker but this shouldn't really have much of a effect.

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by Dublicious » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:13 pm

There's a reason colleges use KRK's there good quality, have good response, and even tho there not entirely flat they work well for what they are

if you want the 'best of the best' your gunna be forking out ridiculous amounts..

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by Toolman4 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:37 pm

sorry to hear about that OP. If I were you, I'd spend ZERO time returning them. The hissing usually comes from the speakers not being connected properly, or the amp in the monitor. Sometimes having it close to other electronics can amplify the hissing as well. I know there are people on here who can give you a much more precise explanation but bottom line is, try moving the location, repositioning them, check your connections, etc. and if it doesn't work, TAKE THEM BITCHES BACK!

Monitors are almost as important as the computer you use to produce with, and maybe more important. If those are not at full working potential, you're being hindered. Try again, you'll be glad you did.

Ps:

I have the RP8s and I LOVE THEM! Having the sub weight of that speaker helps immensely. They have a solid response down to about 44hz and I can tell ya that they work great for where I'm at in my level of production.

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by VirtualMark » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:00 pm

mine hiss when i haven't got any leads plugged in. i think its just normal for them, annoying as it is. i put up with it as i can't hear it when playing music through them. i just like things to be perfect, and these speakers fall short. but for the price, you can't really beat them. i could have spent double easily on another brand.

to towany: i don't really know what the problem could be. the gain on mine is turned right down, as these speakers go plenty loud. i've also turned the hf down as i'm sat right next to them and don't want to fatigue my ears when i'm producing for hours. maybe you have a ground loop, i had one and they're quite common. try a different lead or look at grounding some of your equipment(some audio interfaces have ground points). is the sound there when nothing is connected?
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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by oWLinDaylight » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:04 pm

Towany wrote:Hey lads so i got my krk 6s after and they sound horrible, there is a nasty buzzing coming out of both speakers. When i turn the music up its like listening to a radio station with barely any signal. The both of them are brand new straight out of the box and i got them from Thomann, what do you think I should do.

Here is my setup: Macbook pro 2011, maudio fastrack pro connected to my krks via trs balanced to xlr.

I haven't touched the db settings on the back of either speaker but this shouldn't really have much of a effect.
Definitely sounds like a ground loop issue. There really needs to be a thread discussing ground loop problems. I've seen 5 threads about it over the last 2 weeks and none of them really came to a good conclusion. You can find some good info and solutions by googling ground loops with monitors.
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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by Towany » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:30 pm

Never mind all is good now, sorted it out, turns out in my system preferences it was on 24bit which was distorting the sound so i just changed it to 16 and hey presto everything went from buzz lightyear to savage sounding.... Still don't understand how that could work but it did so i'm goin to stick with that setting!

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by VirtualMark » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:19 am

Towany wrote:Still don't understand how that could work
that makes 2 of us

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by wizeguy » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:28 am

VirtualMark wrote:
Towany wrote:Still don't understand how that could work
that makes 2 of us
init... wtf

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by __________ » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:00 pm

Dublicious wrote:There's a reason colleges use KRK's there good quality, have good response, and even tho there not entirely flat they work well for what they are
Nah, a lot of colleges use KRK cos they don't know any better. Colleges also waste money on gear they don't need and sub-standard gear because they're behind the times. See also: Behringer. Plenty of people and establishments use Behringer cos "they're alright for the price!"

IMO
VirtualMark wrote:To be honest, i think they're cheap crap.
If I was buying new I'd go for the Yamaha, Fostex or small Adam in the same price range. KRK really don't sit well with my ears. They sound like hi-fi speakers to me. Only heard the Rokit 6s and 8s though I think.

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by freakah » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:59 pm

£10 Bag wrote: IMO
VirtualMark wrote:To be honest, i think they're cheap crap.
If I was buying new I'd go for the Yamaha, Fostex or small Adam in the same price range. KRK really don't sit well with my ears. They sound like hi-fi speakers to me. Only heard the Rokit 6s and 8s though I think.
^This. Went and demoed KRK's, the similar price mackies and the Yamaha's at a local production store and the KRK's sounded nice but they are just nice hi-fi speakers. Have a look at the Mackie MR range...they sounded damn flat in comparison, and not too far off the high-end mackies at all...

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by Dublicious » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:58 pm

£10 Bag wrote:
Dublicious wrote:There's a reason colleges use KRK's there good quality, have good response, and even tho there not entirely flat they work well for what they are
Nah, a lot of colleges use KRK cos they don't know any better. Colleges also waste money on gear they don't need and sub-standard gear because they're behind the times. See also: Behringer. Plenty of people and establishments use Behringer cos "they're alright for the price!"

IMO
VirtualMark wrote:To be honest, i think they're cheap crap.
If I was buying new I'd go for the Yamaha, Fostex or small Adam in the same price range. KRK really don't sit well with my ears. They sound like hi-fi speakers to me. Only heard the Rokit 6s and 8s though I think.
If you consider that the case, why do Reso and Flux Pavilion to name a few use rokit 8's? people don't give enough credit to colleges aswell, they know there stuff, they studied in that degree after all... people hate KRK's for the same reason they hate liking skirllex, becuase it's what everyone else sais is good so someones always gotta disagree

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by __________ » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:33 pm

Dublicious wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:
Dublicious wrote:There's a reason colleges use KRK's there good quality, have good response, and even tho there not entirely flat they work well for what they are
Nah, a lot of colleges use KRK cos they don't know any better. Colleges also waste money on gear they don't need and sub-standard gear because they're behind the times. See also: Behringer. Plenty of people and establishments use Behringer cos "they're alright for the price!"

IMO
VirtualMark wrote:To be honest, i think they're cheap crap.
If I was buying new I'd go for the Yamaha, Fostex or small Adam in the same price range. KRK really don't sit well with my ears. They sound like hi-fi speakers to me. Only heard the Rokit 6s and 8s though I think.
If you consider that the case, why do Reso and Flux Pavilion to name a few use rokit 8's? people don't give enough credit to colleges aswell, they know there stuff, they studied in that degree after all... people hate KRK's for the same reason they hate liking skirllex, becuase it's what everyone else sais is good so someones always gotta disagree
I don't give a fuck what Reso or Flux Pavilion use. I don't even give a fuck what people in my crew use. Cessman uses surprisingly shit speakers but that's really not the point. Talent being able to surpass shit gear doesn't make the gear any less shitty. If you're used to shit speakers, and know how to produce a translatable mix on them, there's really no reason to change. It's all levels. I say go straight for some good speakers though, and then learn how to make those translatable mixes much quicker than if you were rocking hi fi speakers.

As for colleges, yeah, no doubt some are good. Some are really shit though. I went on a music tech course on which the course leader spent the whole year's budget on some USB mics and a few field recorders, all while the control room had shitty Behringer outboard, shit acoustic treatment and the live room had a whack drum kit. A lot of colleges have no clue. A lot of colleges also have no clue and a big budget, and STILL go and buy KRK's.

I don't "hate" KRK's. I dislike them, not because its cool to do so (I thought all the cool kids had KRK anyway? :P ) but because I heard a set and thought they sounded crappy. No other reason!

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edit: and yeah, just because a lecturer in the UK is teaching Music Tech (or anything else) it doesn't mean that they're actually qualified to do so. They may well have done their degree in carpet weaving. Generally it's the actual teaching qualification (which you must do in addition to your degree) which gets you a lecturing job. Experience in the course's subject matter is just a bonus as far as the people running the college are concerned. For the Music Tech course I did, the only experience the course leader had of the music industry was working as a secretary at Sony. I'm not saying this is the way for every course across the country, but you'd be naive to think that colleges speak the undiluted truth.

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by render » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:11 pm

VirtualMark wrote:
fragments wrote:Did you check ALL your connections? that could be a ground loop issue and not the monitors... had this problem myself...fixed it with checking all the connections from wall plugs to all cords plugged into computer and soundcard and monitors + a ground loop interrupter. Getting a power conditioner to plug your whole system into will help this as well.
yeah i've tried them in different power sockets, and even tried removing the earth pin to see if it made a difference. i had a ground loop from the pc to the speakers which i solved by earthing the card, but that was a separate issue(i could hear cpu whine and hard drive noise through the monitors).

this is just a hiss, like high pitched white noise. its not overly loud, just annoying as i can hear it when i'm sat up close. i can't hear it if i'm further away, but the point in nearfield monitors is to be near them. and the hiss is louder in the replacement speaker than the other one, which is why i thought it must be the speaker.

so basically i've had 2 dodgy krk's and can't be bothered to send it back. i'd be without a monitor for a few days which would suck. i'm just not very impressed with them, although everyone else seems to like them. i'll go for a more expensive brand in the future, and keep the krk's as a secondary monitor to check mixes on.
First of all, I would love to say thanks for this forum, I've been reading it for months now, just yet registered.

For the quote, I have the same exact problem (not the white noise, the cpu-vga noise.) How exactly do I "earth" my soundcard?

I have a pair of Rokit 6 RP g2's, and a focusrite 24 pro dsp soundcard.

I have 2 options for the soundcard, 1 to plug it in the connector, or i dont plug it in, so let it get power from firewire. If i plug it in the connector, the noise gets louder.

I don't know if wub reads this topic, but Big up to you man, you helped my mixdown and /or mastering problems, I have no questions anymore in my head, I'm all about the creative way from now :)

Can't say thanks enaugh, and also you never know when u find gold! Read everything!

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by symmetricalsounds » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:01 pm

try plugging your soundcard into a different plug to your computer.

i have a firewire interface which is plugged into the main, into same extension as main computer FYI. i use the balanced outputs from the soundcard into my krks and no issues with noise.

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by nomold » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:01 pm

I have the Rockit8's and love them.

The guy who had noise coming from them....likely isn't a monitor problem, but a problem with his setup....so don't let his review deter you. Had he bought more expensive monitors, he would likely still have the hiss.

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by VirtualMark » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:38 pm

render wrote: For the quote, I have the same exact problem (not the white noise, the cpu-vga noise.) How exactly do I "earth" my soundcard?

I have a pair of Rokit 6 RP g2's, and a focusrite 24 pro dsp soundcard.

I have 2 options for the soundcard, 1 to plug it in the connector, or i dont plug it in, so let it get power from firewire. If i plug it in the connector, the noise gets louder.
from what i've learned about ground loops, they come from there being a different voltage on your earth points. i'm no expert, i just managed to sort mine out through a bit of research. some of the recommendations i saw were to buy a power conditioner, and to make sure all of your audio equipment shares the same ground point. i.e plug them into the same power point by using a multi plug. also use proper balanced cables rather than shitty cheap ones.

these ground loops are a pain in the ass, and i blame the hardware manufacturers for making this junk. i've had tons of electrical equipment over the years and never had any problems like this. hi fi's, tv's, surround sound systems, car audio etc, never had any problem. buy some monitors, used a decent lead to plug them in, fired up pc, horrible screeching sound every time i move the mouse. absolute shite.

i earthed my card by running a lead from the outer shield of the signal cable(running to the monitors) to the pc. this is a bodge job, but it works perfectly so i don't care. my soundcard is a native instruments audio 2 dj, and NI support were as much help as a chocolate teapot.

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by spectralbeats » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:02 am

First post here:

Don't get KRK's. They are inaccurate monitors, very hyped in the bass and mids, not good for mixing/mastering. The VXT series are better but still not that great. There are better options from Yamaha and JBL in your price range.

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Re: Who has KRKs?

Post by MineOurArc » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:11 am

I'm rocking RP5's and am really unsure how I should have the HF knob set up? It's ina smallish room if that counts?!

I read something somewhere that suggested turning them on full to compensate for small rooms?

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