broheads, where do YOU get your drum samples?

[wub]

I think its that newby quest for 'the perfect break' sound that actually inhibits them reaching a fleshed out groove in their drums.

I've heard friends of mine tell me about 'amazing' production sessions where they spent 4hrs listening through all their kick samples before they found the PERFECT sample, and I want to slap the taste out of their mouth. 4hrs I'd make a good stab at finishing a fucking tune, not trawling through my Kicks folder

[cmgoodman1226]

If it's hard for you to hear what a good sample is. Try listening to a tune that has drums that you like. Listen to what it sounds like. Then straight after start digging through your collection. Obviously the drums in the tunes you like are going to be much more processed with different effects (especially in "bro-step"), but it might be easier to hear which samples you like better. One of the things that helps me a lot is that I don't really start programming the drums until I have a patch and or a melody already written. Once I have a melody down that I like, from there I start auditioning drum sounds and or layering, etc. I know a lot of people do drums first, but when I start off with a melody, I find it much easier to hear what sort of drums sounds will go well with the tune I'm making. Hope this helps. Best of luck to you. And if you're interested I have a few free homemade sample packs that I've gotten from dogs on acid (the drum and bass forum in case you don't know about it) that I'd be more than happy to share with you.

[JTMMusicuk]

once you get your kick working with your sub your set, i usually make a quick groove with the two and try and try high passing the kick or side chaining then swap the kicksample a few times to see what mixes well.
with drum mixing is really important aswel try not to process them too much

[RmoniK]

If it's hard for you to hear what a good sample is. Try listening to a tune that has drums that you like. Listen to what it sounds like. Then straight after start digging through your collection. Obviously the drums in the tunes you like are going to be much more processed with different effects (especially in "bro-step"), but it might be easier to hear which samples you like better. One of the things that helps me a lot is that I don't really start programming the drums until I have a patch and or a melody already written. Once I have a melody down that I like, from there I start auditioning drum sounds and or layering, etc. I know a lot of people do drums first, but when I start off with a melody, I find it much easier to hear what sort of drums sounds will go well with the tune I'm making. Hope this helps. Best of luck to you. And if you're interested I have a few free homemade sample packs that I've gotten from dogs on acid (the drum and bass forum in case you don't know about it) that I'd be more than happy to share with you.

I'd be more than interested to hear a collection made by an actual producer man.

Thanks for the replies everyone, some good stuff in here!

[cmgoodman1226]

If it's hard for you to hear what a good sample is. Try listening to a tune that has drums that you like. Listen to what it sounds like. Then straight after start digging through your collection. Obviously the drums in the tunes you like are going to be much more processed with different effects (especially in "bro-step"), but it might be easier to hear which samples you like better. One of the things that helps me a lot is that I don't really start programming the drums until I have a patch and or a melody already written. Once I have a melody down that I like, from there I start auditioning drum sounds and or layering, etc. I know a lot of people do drums first, but when I start off with a melody, I find it much easier to hear what sort of drums sounds will go well with the tune I'm making. Hope this helps. Best of luck to you. And if you're interested I have a few free homemade sample packs that I've gotten from dogs on acid (the drum and bass forum in case you don't know about it) that I'd be more than happy to share with you.

I'd be more than interested to hear a collection made by an actual producer man.

Thanks for the replies everyone, some good stuff in here!

Private message me your email.

[Kaslo]

It'll surprise you how many of those seemingly shitty samples will sound good within the context of a completed track. I guarantee that if you took Rusko's individual drum samples out of his songs and played them on their own they'd sound pretty odd.

[RmoniK]

Well I didn't really like the rusko one, but like the funtcase masterclass, he went over each sample, and i swear, those samples are epic. That first kick and that first snare, i wish i had one of those.

[Earjax]

Something I find really helpful is finding a snare/clap I like in a song then putting it into a frequency analyser and just copying the peaks I've also got a folder of drum hits that i've sampled straight from songs, the prototypes (drum & bass) for example are really good for nicking samples from

[kurtdaniel]

Blitz Lunar's drums are a combination of NES DPCM samples, white noise and and possibly some triangle channel usage. Same with virt's track. Everyone must learn this after learning how to play the drums..

[e-motion]

Spend a day or two designing your own drums. What I do is basically, layering vengence samples, EQ/compression/whatever and bounce them to my homemade folder. A good tip is to A/B with pro tracks (at the same percreived level) because too much time listening to the same sample and your ears will start to fool you.
I did this for the kick and snare (althought I'm still not happy about the snare, I think it's "close enough"). It will help a lot when your inspiration comes and you don't have to spend time looking for the right samples to layer (which, in the past, killed many of my inspirations).

I'm going to keep doing this between tracks, eventually, I'll have some nice homemade sample pack. OH AND SAVE THE "DRUM DESIGN" PROJECT. Will be cool to do some tweaks you can't do on the final sample and will also be nice to know which techniques you used in the past. I saved each of the designed drums in WAV but I also saved a Rack per each of the samples containing the whole FX chain.

[JTMMusicuk]

Spend a day or two designing your own drums. What I do is basically, layering vengence samples, EQ/compression/whatever and bounce them to my homemade folder. A good tip is to A/B with pro tracks (at the same percreived level) because too much time listening to the same sample and your ears will start to fool you.
I did this for the kick and snare (althought I'm still not happy about the snare, I think it's "close enough"). It will help a lot when your inspiration comes and you don't have to spend time looking for the right samples to layer (which, in the past, killed many of my inspirations).

I'm going to keep doing this between tracks, eventually, I'll have some nice homemade sample pack. OH AND SAVE THE "DRUM DESIGN" PROJECT. Will be cool to do some tweaks you can't do on the final sample and will also be nice to know which techniques you used in the past. I saved each of the designed drums in WAV but I also saved a Rack per each of the samples containing the whole FX chain.

Not every sample needs to be layered and have added effects especially if its vengeance but yeah your deffinitly right its all about organisation to improve workflow
I need to get rid of all the shit samples il never use and make a favorites folder, the way im doing it currently kills creative flow big time

[k_k]

I got a sample pack ages ago called 'Scott Storch drums' or some shit, filled with just normal drums hits, really good quality, its just a case of learning to process them right, get a good quality smaple and you can turn it into what you like as far as I'm concerned.

[e-motion]

Spend a day or two designing your own drums. What I do is basically, layering vengence samples, EQ/compression/whatever and bounce them to my homemade folder. A good tip is to A/B with pro tracks (at the same percreived level) because too much time listening to the same sample and your ears will start to fool you.
I did this for the kick and snare (althought I'm still not happy about the snare, I think it's "close enough"). It will help a lot when your inspiration comes and you don't have to spend time looking for the right samples to layer (which, in the past, killed many of my inspirations).

I'm going to keep doing this between tracks, eventually, I'll have some nice homemade sample pack. OH AND SAVE THE "DRUM DESIGN" PROJECT. Will be cool to do some tweaks you can't do on the final sample and will also be nice to know which techniques you used in the past. I saved each of the designed drums in WAV but I also saved a Rack per each of the samples containing the whole FX chain.

Not every sample needs to be layered and have added effects especially if its vengeance but yeah your deffinitly right its all about organisation to improve workflow
I need to get rid of all the shit samples il never use and make a favorites folder, the way im doing it currently kills creative flow big time

I don't know, but for kicks I like to layer one for the click, other for the boom, EQ them and then compress them together. I think it works pretty well. For snares I'm still not happy about mine so I'm probably doing it wrong (or choosing the wrong samples).

Bottom point is, I mostly layer because I'm never happy with the samples I find and most of the processing comes to tweak the layer perfectly.