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Re: My DAW is better than yours! (Friendly DAW Wars debate)

Post by futures_untold » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:24 pm

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Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DAWs..

Post by Pulp » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:14 pm

Hello all

Been getting into production a lot more in the past few months and I've been using Cubase as my DAW. I don't use any internal instruments on it, only VSTs really. Do you think I should have a go with some other programs before completely settling on Cubase? I always go to try out a new program but find myself just opening up Cubase making a tune there, I guess it's because it's what I know, but I can't imagine some of the others are that hard to learn? Was thinking of trying Ableton Live or Reason.

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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by press » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:21 pm

i suggest reaper.
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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by virks » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:28 pm

i like rich people..the just cant decide what to buy next :6:

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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by escapes » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:49 pm

Reaper! it will take a while to learn but when you get the hang of it you can pimp it out make it the DAW you've dreamed of! For the price you can't com plain

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Post by ehbes » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:23 am

Trying to wrap your head around Reason is gonna be hard if your coming from Cubase, but its well worth it!
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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by Pulp » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:34 am

I guess I'm also looking for reasons why other DAWs are better than others etc?

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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by daeMTHAFKNkim » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:36 am

I'd say FL Studio is pretty easy to work with/easy to make some bomb-sounding drums. You just need the right compressors/EQ's to download cuz the built-in ones aren't really reliable to work with.

Cubase is pretty nice but I haven't touched it with dubstep really. Only my rock stuff I use it for....Cubase seems pretty similar to Logic. I forgot what Reason looks like....

Ableton Live is similar to Cubase but a more confusing advanced layout.....but of course when you get used to it then it seems like nothing....haven't spent enough time on Ableton to like it yet..someday :p.

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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by subfect » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:30 am

I tried reaper after it received such a good rap (I come from ableton live) and tbh, I find it to be incredibly over-rated. Workflow for me is actually quite bad (though some people claim it's faster) and unlike ableton live, which I was able to get into and really start writing tunes within a few days (with good time and workflow), reaper I had constant headaches in the learning curve. Not for me.
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Post by wub » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:50 am

Every DAW/program is the same - easy to pick up, hard to master. Switching DAWs won't suddenly up the quality of your output, though you might find some are more favourable to your workflow.

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Post by RandoRando » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:54 am

I went from a user of FL for 6 years to starting to using ableton now. No lookin back I love ableton.
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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by stevemac » Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:17 am

Pretty much all DAWs are good these days, it's all about your preference and workflow.

I switched to Live a few months back and my productivity and creativity has gone through the roof. Just work out which one works for you and all will be gravy :)
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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by Electric_Head » Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:50 am

I`ve used Cubase, Reason, FL, Logic and Albeton.
I still prefer Reaper hands down.
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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by Pulp » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:02 pm

Great replies thanks all. So I guess I'm just going to have to try them out! What's different about the workflows? Is it just quicker to do certain things? (automation looks a lot nicer to edit in Ableton).

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Post by subfect » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:37 pm

wub wrote:Every DAW/program is the same - easy to pick up, hard to master. Switching DAWs won't suddenly up the quality of your output, though you might find some are more favourable to your workflow.
I really disagree with this, based on my experience with Reaper. But that's just me, most people seem to have no problems. hehe
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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by Sine69 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:13 pm

Try Ableton!

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Post by VirtualMark » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:00 pm

Speaking from my experience - when i first started out i tried loads of software and daws. I've really studied Cubase hard, and know it really well now. When i try to make a tune on Ableton i get frustrated as i'm much slower at doing basic stuff, and like you i end up going back to Cubase. I've decided to stick with it, as i feel its more important for me to spend time on music and sound design, than be learning more software. I've realised i had 'grass is greener syndrome', and thought changing daw may improve my production skill. It didn't, but it was interesting using other software.

From what i gather, the advantages of each are only a few, as they can all do pretty much anything.

Ableton: Audio/midi effects racks, instrument racks etc. These are beyond what Cubase can do, i.e assign one midi control to 20 parameters. Can be fun for sound design.
Automation is easier - you don't have to scroll through tons of parameters like Cubase, the last control you touch is displayed and ready to be automated. Definite time saver.
Ease of working with audio, very quick to stretch and manipulate etc.
Superior layout, everything has its place. Unlike Cubase with its annoying floating windows. Abletons a much more modern design.

Cubase: Better mixer, more tools for editing midi, dual monitor support, offline processing history, also seems to be less cpu intensive for me at least.

Reason: Has its own set of instruments, some are really nice. But the minus is that you can't use VST's.

I've messed around on other daw's but not enough to give them a fair chance. Hope this helps.

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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by DrastikMeazures » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:53 pm

I suggest you try rewiring reason or fl into cubase. That's how I work and I love the combination. Reason is great for programming drums triggering samples and all sorts of other stuff.

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Re: Currently using Cubase, thinking of toying with other DA

Post by Pulp » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:50 pm

DrastikMeazures wrote:I suggest you try rewiring reason or fl into cubase. That's how I work and I love the combination. Reason is great for programming drums triggering samples and all sorts of other stuff.
I currently use Battery 3 for programming drums, and I'm getting pretty comfortable with that, unless Reason is better.
VirtualMark wrote:Speaking from my experience - when i first started out i tried loads of software and daws. I've really studied Cubase hard, and know it really well now. When i try to make a tune on Ableton i get frustrated as i'm much slower at doing basic stuff, and like you i end up going back to Cubase. I've decided to stick with it, as i feel its more important for me to spend time on music and sound design, than be learning more software. I've realised i had 'grass is greener syndrome', and thought changing daw may improve my production skill. It didn't, but it was interesting using other software.

From what i gather, the advantages of each are only a few, as they can all do pretty much anything.

Ableton: Audio/midi effects racks, instrument racks etc. These are beyond what Cubase can do, i.e assign one midi control to 20 parameters. Can be fun for sound design.
Automation is easier - you don't have to scroll through tons of parameters like Cubase, the last control you touch is displayed and ready to be automated. Definite time saver.
Ease of working with audio, very quick to stretch and manipulate etc.
Superior layout, everything has its place. Unlike Cubase with its annoying floating windows. Abletons a much more modern design.

Cubase: Better mixer, more tools for editing midi, dual monitor support, offline processing history, also seems to be less cpu intensive for me at least.

Reason: Has its own set of instruments, some are really nice. But the minus is that you can't use VST's.

I've messed around on other daw's but not enough to give them a fair chance. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the time for this post. I was going to switch to Ableton recently because as I said and you reinforced that it's quicker, generally, for workflow. But then I said about Reaper, how's Ableton compared? I want to try at least one other DAW before just settling with Cubase, but stuck between these two.

Thanks.

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