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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by d-T-r » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:21 pm

Was gonna make a thread but i guess it's not of everyone's interest so i'll put it in here.


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MIke Maki is a close friend, a completely ethical, kind, and decent person who has helped many people. I have known him for over twenty years, and in that time I can sincerely say that I have come to know a man whose character is impeccable. Now he has run into some trouble; he was recently arrested for growing and distributing psilocybin mushrooms in his home state of Washington. Rather than 'cave' and rat on his associates, as would be the usual pattern in Federal cases of this sort, Mike has chosen to fight back. He is using the power of the Internet to question the wisdom of Schedule 1 status for psilocybin and related sacred medicines. Many of these substances were dumped into Schedule 1 in the late 60's in a fit of legislative hysteria, without any evidence that they were actually dangerous or lacked medical applications. Enough research has accumulated since to indicate that these substances, far from being without therapeutic value, in fact have the potential to help many people afflicted with the sickness of the soul that is so prevalent in our society. It's time to re-examine the entire issue of the schedule 1 status of sacred medicines, and Mike is using his misfortune to put the issue on the table for broader discussion and hopefully for reconsideration. Here is a link to his blog: http://www.mushroomman.org/
Mike needs our help now. If you believe in this cause, please support him with a modest donation through Paypal. If you are unable to support him with a donation, please help by spreading the word to others of like mind. We may actually have the chance to change the tone of the conversation about sacred medicines such as psilocybin mushrooms and their proper role in our society.
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Following up my previous post, I'm pasting in a personal letter from Mike Maki that will give more details on the situation and that appeals for your help. Some may ask, 'Why am I doing this?' Aren't you risking your reputation? To the latter I'm inclined to say, 'what reputation?' More to the point, it's simple: Friends should stand up for friends. Mike is the best friend a man could have, and I am doing what I can to help him in his hour of need. He would do no less for me, or any one of us.

Hello-

I write this to you following a set of most unfortunate circumstances that happened to me recently. On October 20 I was arrested by the DEA for cultivation and distribution of magic mushrooms, Psilocybe cubensis. This came apparently at the end of a considerable investigation. Four others were also arrested, including my son Peter. This will come to some of you as brand new news, and to some of you as not-so-news. I don't advertise my interest in mushroom cultivation or their intelligent and therapeutic use, but neither do I try to lie about my interests. As I consider you all my friends, I assume that you in turn can appreciate the enthusiasm, honesty and honor with which I approach all of my many and varied interests and activities. I have proceeded these years on a need-to-know basis, since the current illegal status of these medicinal plants, etc. makes it appropriate to keep a more or less low profile. Now the mushrooms are out of the bag, so to speak, and I am going to speak out from my experience and conviction (pun intended!). My new blog, http://www.mushroomman.org will be the location of this discussion, and I encourage you to check it out, it will have much of general interest and I think you'll enjoy following my story.

Part of what the Feds will be trying to do is seize my property and all assets. This will be a lengthy and expensive legal struggle to hang on to my home and property. I am now reaching out to you, my friends, for your support and assistance. While I can't offer you a tax deduction, what I can offer and promise is that I will "Pay it forward" to help make my efforts to protect civil liberties serve the greater good. In short, I need your help right now to help with the legal costs that are coming my way and to my codefendants. Money orders or checks made out to Mike Maki will be greatly appreciated and well used. As you must know, I'm not used to asking for assistance and am usually on the other side of the equation, helping out in what ways I can to make our lives and planet better. Now it's my time to ask for your generous assistance.

In my new blog, http://www.mushroomman.org I will relate the story as it unfolds, give you my background story, analyze the situation from my own as well as other perspectives. I think you'll enjoy learning from my experiences. You will also note an advertisement for my own production of holiday garlands. A link is provided below. Feel free to share this with like-minded folks, and encourage them to contribute. Let's build a network of light and mutual support.

For the benefit of all concerned, Mike Maki

PO Box 126 Hoquiam, WA 98550
360-987-2332 Skype: makimichael

http://mushroomman.org/
another sentiment from his site i'll highlight for building some of the bigger picture.
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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by Today » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:23 pm

Dub_freak wrote:Weed is the only drug I've ever tried because im so fucking hardcore.
Dub_freak wrote:I've been drunk loads of times
sorry 4 being a dick i just hate when people write off alcohol as "not a drug" when there's nothing un-druggish about it... being one of the strongest, most addictive, most dangerous, and most fun substances of the drug world. i used to get pissed off at DARE's slogan to resist drugs AND alcohol.. alcohol is always billed as a non-drug. If it ain't a drug, than nothing is.

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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by Dub_freak » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:04 pm

Today wrote:
Dub_freak wrote:Weed is the only drug I've ever tried because im so fucking hardcore.
Dub_freak wrote:I've been drunk loads of times
sorry 4 being a dick i just hate when people write off alcohol as "not a drug" when there's nothing un-druggish about it... being one of the strongest, most addictive, most dangerous, and most fun substances of the drug world. i used to get pissed off at DARE's slogan to resist drugs AND alcohol.. alcohol is always billed as a non-drug. If it ain't a drug, than nothing is.

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I see what you mean and i agree with that, i suppose the legality of alcohol tricks us into thinking its not a drug.
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Post by gwa » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:33 pm

irony of it all
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Post by James Kofi » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:35 pm

Dub_freak wrote:
Today wrote:
Dub_freak wrote:Weed is the only drug I've ever tried because im so fucking hardcore.
Dub_freak wrote:I've been drunk loads of times
sorry 4 being a dick i just hate when people write off alcohol as "not a drug" when there's nothing un-druggish about it... being one of the strongest, most addictive, most dangerous, and most fun substances of the drug world. i used to get pissed off at DARE's slogan to resist drugs AND alcohol.. alcohol is always billed as a non-drug. If it ain't a drug, than nothing is.

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I see what you mean and i agree with that, i suppose the legality of alcohol tricks us into thinking its not a drug.
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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by Redderious » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:41 pm

James Kofi wrote:
Dub_freak wrote:
Today wrote:
Dub_freak wrote:Weed is the only drug I've ever tried because im so fucking hardcore.
Dub_freak wrote:I've been drunk loads of times
sorry 4 being a dick i just hate when people write off alcohol as "not a drug" when there's nothing un-druggish about it... being one of the strongest, most addictive, most dangerous, and most fun substances of the drug world. i used to get pissed off at DARE's slogan to resist drugs AND alcohol.. alcohol is always billed as a non-drug. If it ain't a drug, than nothing is.

/rant
I see what you mean and i agree with that, i suppose the legality of alcohol tricks us into thinking its not a drug.
those crafty politicians!
the only reason it is legal is becuase they like getting fucked up too.

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Post by gwa » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:44 pm

i think it might have something to do with prohibition
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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by James Kofi » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:53 pm

Redderious wrote:
James Kofi wrote:
Dub_freak wrote:
Today wrote:
Dub_freak wrote:Weed is the only drug I've ever tried because im so fucking hardcore.
Dub_freak wrote:I've been drunk loads of times
sorry 4 being a dick i just hate when people write off alcohol as "not a drug" when there's nothing un-druggish about it... being one of the strongest, most addictive, most dangerous, and most fun substances of the drug world. i used to get pissed off at DARE's slogan to resist drugs AND alcohol.. alcohol is always billed as a non-drug. If it ain't a drug, than nothing is.

/rant
I see what you mean and i agree with that, i suppose the legality of alcohol tricks us into thinking its not a drug.
those crafty politicians!
the only reason it is legal is becuase they like getting fucked up too.
by that logic cocaine would be legal.
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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by apmje » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:58 pm

kentnz wrote:I got hooked on opiates after i broke my leg. It wasted a lot of my time.
Same thing happen to me when I was prescribed codeine for my fucked up gallbladder. Would pop shit loads on a night, in the end, even if there was no pain. Then when I finally got the thing removed spent a week virtually sucking morphine up my veins 24/7...man that was fucked up.

Fortunately I don't have that much of an addictive personality and dropped them, had some withdrawal but just powered through.

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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by Today » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:02 pm

:Q:


wish i could say the same
i went running off to buy black market oxy's
at the point in time i couldn't fathom anything except popping pills and being sick. addiction is strange
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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by apmje » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:05 pm

Yeah in 2010 I had a real drink/codeine problem. :/

Had a great time though. Cba now.

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Post by James Kofi » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:09 pm

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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by Redderious » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:20 pm

James Kofi wrote:feeeeens
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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by leyenda » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:00 pm

You may think alcohol is the overlooked drug but really it's caffeine. Some people are ridiculously unbalanced if they haven't had their fix. Plus if you've ever seen someone after a dozen espressos...
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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by pikeymobile » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:43 pm

alcohol isn't a drug, it's a drink

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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by leyenda » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:16 am

pikeymobile wrote:alcohol isn't a drug, it's a drink
Classic Chris Morris :Q:
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Post by wormcode » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:51 am

leyenda303 wrote:You may think alcohol is the overlooked drug but really it's caffeine. Some people are ridiculously unbalanced if they haven't had their fix. Plus if you've ever seen someone after a dozen espressos...
Yes the true gateway drugs, +nicotine.
Caffeine and alcohol are well encouraged in our societies. So was nicotine up until quite recently.

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Re: Drug Question/General Drug Thread

Post by tyger » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:53 pm

i'm seriously caffeine-dependent ... if caffeine were prohibited, this could seriously fuck up my life ... as it is, i get my caffeine fix, and then i can operate as a normal member of society (well, fairly normal :)).

(i'm not saying all drug addictions/dependencies are the same. clearly there are differences, and not only whether they're prohibited and how highly they're taxed.)

but the ultimate gateway drug is milk.

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Post by SunkLo » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:45 pm

Word is born son, I was on that shit from day 1. If I didn't get my calcium fix I'd cry and shit myself. Proper fiendin ish.
I was so desperate I'd suck that shit outta my mom's titty. You ever sucked a tit for some weed?
No.
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Post by Today » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:38 pm

dude i would have no issues with sucking a tit for weed. just sayin.
and i am too a bad caffeine addict
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