dark chord synth design

balthazarely · Post by **balthazarely** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:00 pm

ive been trying to get close to this sound for a while and i just cant seem to get close to the depth and wideness of the sound. i have been messing about with the using bandpass/bandreject filters and lots of reverb/delay but it just doesnt get nearly as deep

in this song the chord-synth comes in at 0:30 seconds.

joshisrad · Post by **joshisrad** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:14 pm

Vocoder!

sook · Post by **sook** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:52 am

he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...

Kasshern · Post by **Kasshern** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:21 am

Hi that type of chord synth make me think of the one you hear in dub techno like "rythm and sound" and that kind of stuff...you should maybe looking for dub techno chord tutorial or patch walkthrough, i think i've seen some on http://www.massivesynth.com/.

boot · Post by **boot** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:07 pm

sook wrote:he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...

Coded by the ghost of Poe himself

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:15 pm

stoked when I saw this thread

I actually broke down how I made that chord stab in another thread a wee while back, I've copy/pasted it below... if you need more info I'd be happy to go into more detail.

"I made them out of a pad sound that I made for a previous tune. I think it was a simple PWM pad that I made with Logic's ES2, layered with a bandpass sweep pad preset from Blue and loads of pitched-down timestretched vinyl crackle atmos/ambience that started life as an Apple Loop.

Layered about 3-4 different variations of the pad sounds and ambiences, then bounced out a minor chord - about 8 bars of sustained chord, with all the layers in. Whacked that in a sampler, then did the final filter modulation using Fabfilter Volcano - it's an LFO or envelope modulating the cutoff that gives it the 'stabby' feel."

big ups and good luck!

and lol @ Boot and Sook, shhhhh thems supposed to be secretssttsts

westernsynthetics · Post by **westernsynthetics** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:16 pm

sook wrote:he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...

You have been deceived. Its actually a bunch of bannana leaves hand picked from Byron bay being towed behind a ford courier ute through paddock of sunflowers while in neutral with the engine turned off down a steep hill with 5 british backpackers we hired for a slab of VB singing 4 part harmonies in the tray. I know cause I was there when we recorded it. We had stereo mics strapped to the back of the ute and it was going down at 88 into my MBOX 2 PRO with Pro Tools. We then reversed it in post, stuck it though 2 mesa boogie amps in stereo mic'd up in a 30x40 meter warehouse in Marrickville called Dirty Shirlows. Good luck replicating it.

sook · Post by **sook** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:21 pm

westernsynthetics wrote:
sook wrote:he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...
You have been deceived. Its actually a bunch of bannana leaves...

we promised not tell...

joshisrad · Post by **joshisrad** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:52 pm

Please tell me someone else hears the vocoder effect.

Kasshern · Post by **Kasshern** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:00 pm

You mean on the attack on the sound?i hear a bit of vocoder too but you can achieve that sound by an other way i think...

joshisrad · Post by **joshisrad** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:09 pm

No I swear it sounds like it's being processed through a vocoder, like how you can use vocoders as EQs.

Kasshern · Post by **Kasshern** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:34 pm

yep it reminds a bit of the sound when you put the ableton vocoder and adjust the formant settings...is it what you are talking about?

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:10 am

joshisrad wrote:No I swear it sounds like it's being processed through a vocoder, like how you can use vocoders as EQs.

I can promise you it has not been processed through a vocoder. In the post above, I explained how I made it. No vocoder

balthazarely · Post by **balthazarely** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:14 am

thanks for all the input, im going to work on it now

balthazarely · Post by **balthazarely** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:16 am

big ups 3rdeye!

Ghost of Muttley · Post by **Ghost of Muttley** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:46 am

westernsynthetics wrote:
sook wrote:he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...
You have been deceived. Its actually a bunch of bannana leaves hand picked from Byron bay being towed behind a ford courier ute through paddock of sunflowers while in neutral with the engine turned off down a steep hill with 5 british backpackers we hired for a slab of VB singing 4 part harmonies in the tray. I know cause I was there when we recorded it. We had stereo mics strapped to the back of the ute and it was going down at 88 into my MBOX 2 PRO with Pro Tools. We then reversed it in post, stuck it though 2 mesa boogie amps in stereo mic'd up in a 30x40 meter warehouse in Marrickville called Dirty Shirlows. Good luck replicating it.

Nah dude that's how Sueb(m)e made their jeans

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:04 am

is this what happens in the production forum over the wknd?

I`m surprised no-one mentioned Hamvst or DubTurbo

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:23 am

Electric_Head wrote:is this what happens in the production forum over the wknd?

I`m surprised no-one mentioned Hamvst or DubTurbo

amidst the fun, the information was dispensed to the correct party successfully, and certainly not using a vocoder

joshisrad · Post by **joshisrad** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:00 am

3rdeye wrote:
Electric_Head wrote:is this what happens in the production forum over the wknd?

I`m surprised no-one mentioned Hamvst or DubTurbo
amidst the fun, the information was dispensed to the correct party successfully, and certainly not using a vocoder

Man I was thinking why the fuck is this guy so sure, it sounds like a vocoder to me, then I clicked the youtube video and saw the title is "3rdeye remix" XD

3rdeye · Post by **3rdeye** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:11 am

joshisrad wrote:
3rdeye wrote:
Electric_Head wrote:is this what happens in the production forum over the wknd?

I`m surprised no-one mentioned Hamvst or DubTurbo
amidst the fun, the information was dispensed to the correct party successfully, and certainly not using a vocoder
Man I was thinking why the fuck is this guy so sure, it sounds like a vocoder to me, then I clicked the youtube video and saw the title is "3rdeye remix" XD

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