USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

[wormcode]

one of them instinctively shot him in the stomach, and he later died.. they said "could have contained explosives or other harmful device"

Extremely stupid and a direct product of government and media induced panic. Lots of people are literally afraid of terrorists lighting shoebombs and other stuff in the US. So much sensationalism has brainwashed millions into being afraid of the family next door. Same reason people think everyone in the park wants to molest their kids.

Btw another reason police shoot so many times is because the ammunition they use is weaker these days, to be "less lethal". There's a huge difference between being shot with .357 and 9mm. You can very likely survive a few 9mm rounds, not .357. Police usually use 9mm or .40S&W. That's the norm in most states. Some units also carry 12 gauge and semi-auto M4 variants in the car for things like bank robberies.

[bela]

one of them instinctively shot him in the stomach, and he later died.. they said "could have contained explosives or other harmful device"

Extremely stupid and a direct product of government and media induced panic. Lots of people are literally afraid of terrorists lighting shoebombs and other stuff in the US. So much sensationalism has brainwashed millions into being afraid of the family next door. Same reason people think everyone in the park wants to molest their kids.

this-
institutionalized fear

[AntlionUK]

cops cover each others backs and hide behind biased judge's and investigators because at the end of the day they are a more force who represent justice and cannot appear to be flawed in their decision making in spite of the very real element of human error ingrained in every obvious poor decision they make. occasionally those decisions cost lives.

This is a fantastic summary for the core issue that I have with the Police.

[pkay]

people who take PCP know what PCP can do.

people who break the law in the US are well aware of how our police are.

i know better than to do certain things during my debauchery as I know our police force will protect themselves if they feel in danger.


Best bet if you encounter the cops is to submit and be honest and they'll usually do you right. The only times I've been hit by a cop or gone to jail was when I was being blatantly obnoxious or confrontational.

[daeMTHAFKNkim]

Im basing it off wikipedia

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh wait, you're serious.

It's not all bullshit on there you know. Plus why would anyone make that up? Seems pretty legit to say that a drug like that would dull the effects of pain...

I think the officer used hugely excessive force. The guy falls down after the first/second shot. What was the need for the other 8? Just a power trip for the cop i think. And yeah, in england i would imagine several officers with their batons beating him down to the ground at least... But no deaths...

In the U.S(don't know about anywhere else) that guy can sue the cop the shot him if he survived supposedly. So what the Police Departments say is "Shoot to Kill" so there are no problems later with that kind of stuff.

And PCP is like a superman drug. I've heard all sorts of things about it. You can seriously pick up a car and rip your tendons/dislocate your elbows and not know it at all.

[Comfi]

And PCP is like a superman drug. I've heard all sorts of things about it. You can seriously pick up a car and rip your tendons/dislocate your elbows and not know it at all.

Yea, It fucks with your nerve endings. You can't use 100% of your muscle power because your brain won't let you come close to minimise the chance of muscle damage. PCP basically takes this safety mechanism away so people on it are super strong.

Something like the way mothers have lifted cars off their children and stuff.

[Shum]

Supe rman dems on PCP. Wheeeee!!!

[apmje]

Think the cops were wrong to kill him.

And the guys laughing when someone dies right in front of them? Not on that like.

[antipode]

why not just use beanbag rounds? Or just shoot him in the foot?

Don't see either of them with a shotgun, do you? You can't shoot beanbag rounds out of a glock. They may have had a shotgun in their squad car wherever that was, but that doesn't mean they have non-lethal rounds for it.

Cops will never shoot someone in a foot, they are trained to aim for the largest center of mass, ie the chest/torso or whatever presents the biggest target.

That said, 10 shots does seem excessive, but it seems like when some cops start shooting, they shoot ALOT.
especially in a group (there's a word for this, but I can't remember what it was - one person starts shooting and the rest get excited and join in.. was a major part of that case where those cops in NY unloaded like 50 rounds into someone.)

[wormcode]

That said, 10 shots does seem excessive, but it seems like when some cops start shooting, they shoot ALOT.
especially in a group (there's a word for this, but I can't remember what it was - one person starts shooting and the rest get excited and join in.. was a major part of that case where those cops in NY unloaded like 50 rounds into someone.)

Contagious Shooting.
But you can tell he was just itching to fire. He didn't even swing, and even if he did the cop moved back anyway. They should have kept their distance. US police are way too trigger happy, more than happy to shoot first and ask questions later.

BTW the only people saying he was on PCP are internet forums.

[Soiree]

all pcp aside, hammers to guns=not a fair fight.

[minusworld]

the people that filmed this are insane , a man dies in front of them and they just sit there and laugh?
I wouldn't even think about filming it , i would be so shocked that i just froze or got the hell out of there!
Why diden't they just release the dog? A dog in good shape with good training would have disarmed the man very quickly so the police could jump him.

[1017_duck]

And PCP is like a superman drug. I've heard all sorts of things about it. You can seriously pick up a car and rip your tendons/dislocate your elbows and not know it at all.

This is often largely exaggerated though. I've known a few relatively normal drug users that say it's just like a weird mix of DXM, coke, and ketamine. Not nearly as wildly unpredictable as the media portrays.

[1017_duck]

And PCP is like a superman drug. I've heard all sorts of things about it. You can seriously pick up a car and rip your tendons/dislocate your elbows and not know it at all.

This is often largely exaggerated though. I've known a few relatively normal drug users that say it's just like a weird mix of DXM, coke, and ketamine. Not nearly as wildly unpredictable as the media portrays. These cholos that get on TV and are supposedly on PCP are just crazy, dumb people.

[south3rn]

And PCP is like a superman drug. I've heard all sorts of things about it. You can seriously pick up a car and rip your tendons/dislocate your elbows and not know it at all.

This is often largely exaggerated though. I've known a few relatively normal drug users that say it's just like a weird mix of DXM, coke, and ketamine. Not nearly as wildly unpredictable as the media portrays.

i don't know anyone who has taken it, but what i've learned and the way i interpret heavy PCP use tells me that 2 or 3 shots wouldn't have done a thing to this guy. if i'm shitfaced drunk, a shot or two may not affect me like it would if i was sober.

i'd say the first spray of 4 or 5 bullets was appropriate, but that second spray seemed unnecessary. if i had the two options in front of me that the shooting policeman had, either shoot the offender and risk killing him, or not shoot him and allow him to possibly kill my partner, i'd shoot the guy too.

the guy was out of his mind high but it was his decision to take the drugs, he's still responsible for his actions.

[wormcode]

And PCP is like a superman drug. I've heard all sorts of things about it. You can seriously pick up a car and rip your tendons/dislocate your elbows and not know it at all.

This is often largely exaggerated though. I've known a few relatively normal drug users that say it's just like a weird mix of DXM, coke, and ketamine. Not nearly as wildly unpredictable as the media portrays. These cholos that get on TV and are supposedly on PCP are just crazy, dumb people.

It is just a normal dissociative up to a point. In fact on drug tests, DXM has been known to give a false positive for PCP because they are similar. It's PCP overdoses where people go nuts and their brain stops limiting their muscles. Of course people with mental issues like schizophrenia can get crazy, that's with any drug mixed with mental illness though.

Another sign of PCP overdosing is removal of clothes because PCP raises the body temperature to extremely high levels where it can cause death. He was dressed very warmly.

Still no background on the situation though. Only people on youtube/forum are saying he was high.
He could have just been an angry guy who did not like police. Maybe they were verbally assaulting/threatening/taunting him. Maybe he had a mental breakdown. Perhaps the taser malfunctioned. maybe it hit him in that hood and stopped the electricity. Who knows what happened before the camera turned on. Unless there were witnesses willing to speak out and their stories match, or he left some kind of note we'll never really know. As far as drugs, maybe there will be a toxicology report but it depends.

There are videos of people on large amounts of PCP being shot, and they barely flinch. He obviously felt it and tried to run.

[demonzEEK]

Really fucked up. No way that amount of shots was justified. He didn't even swing, he just wound the hammer up. It may have just been a threatening motion. I reckon that cop was just looking for a reason to shoot.

...on a slightly lighter PCP related note:

[James Kofi]

home of the 'brave'

[mylon]

what is pcp used for and what does it help.