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Post by thomas » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:53 pm

^ Right on, wether i like nu rave/indie/pop/new era/big text t shirts, isnt an issue. People are freeeeeeee to do whatever iiiiiiiiiiiiii. In the words Oasis.

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Post by rob_o » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:02 pm

Thomas wrote:
Rob_O wrote: anyways i recon its a fad like ska punk, .
Ska Punks been goign for time mate more of an underground/less comm thing, its no fucking Fad. I think you need to re-read the deffinition of fad. It dosnt need a capital letter for one.

Its easy to not understand somthing, and easier to say somthing supid like you just did.
i know what u mean i didnt mean explain it in a small minded way, when i say fad i mean the people who just jumped on it when it was big and then moved on when the next big thing came along, i still have mates who listen to it, so sorry didnt mean to put it like that.

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Post by tronman » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:03 pm

Shonky wrote:heard a Hadouken tune and didn't think it as dreadful as some people did.
i generally dont like them at all.. but their synth player is heavy! some proper grimeyness at times.
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Post by thomas » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:08 pm

Rob_O wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Rob_O wrote: anyways i recon its a fad like ska punk, .
Ska Punks been goign for time mate more of an underground/less comm thing, its no fucking Fad. I think you need to re-read the deffinition of fad. It dosnt need a capital letter for one.

Its easy to not understand somthing, and easier to say somthing supid like you just did.
i know what u mean i didnt mean explain it in a small minded way, when i say fad i mean the people who just jumped on it when it was big and then moved on when the next big thing came along, i still have mates who listen to it, so sorry didnt mean to put it like that.
Appology accepted....at least you got me to bring out some Yellow #5 anyway :lol:

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Post by rob_o » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:15 pm

Thomas wrote:
Rob_O wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Rob_O wrote: anyways i recon its a fad like ska punk, .
Ska Punks been goign for time mate more of an underground/less comm thing, its no fucking Fad. I think you need to re-read the deffinition of fad. It dosnt need a capital letter for one.

Its easy to not understand somthing, and easier to say somthing supid like you just did.
i know what u mean i didnt mean explain it in a small minded way, when i say fad i mean the people who just jumped on it when it was big and then moved on when the next big thing came along, i still have mates who listen to it, so sorry didnt mean to put it like that.
Appology accepted....at least you got me to bring out some Yellow #5 anyway :lol:
cheers haha, yeah i kindda when off on one when i saw the topic. an at the end of the day who am i to say whats best for anyone else except myslef, everyones entiled to do an listen to what they want an no one can tell them any differnt. but thats like what was mentioned before when u feel so pasionat about a style of music you wanna keep it personal cos being into sumthing not everyone u know is into makes u feel differant and orginal

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Post by corpsey » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:37 pm

I feel like an old man whenever I see kids in their new rave uniforms filming each other happy cock slapping edificies of uffie in the midday sun.

But I was a complete bellend when I was a teenager, so fuck it.

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Post by blckhrt101 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:06 pm

WTF is new rave anyway, neo-rave ive heard of...as in bang face, (breakcore, jungle, gabba, old school rave etc...)

but i dont think its the same thing, cause neo-rave is actually really fucking good, and captures the spirit of the early nineties rave culture, where as (from what i gather) new rave sounds like a bunch of indie kids in skinny jeans listening to shit 'electro' and dancing like they've been poked by a cattle prod...

someone clarify please :lol:

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Post by j_j » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:15 pm

tronman wrote:
Alex bk-bk wrote: Jamie from Hadouken...
..was shockin out @ fwd before half of you knew what a subwoofer was.

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Post by jason burns » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:27 pm

Thomas wrote:
Rob_O wrote: anyways i recon its a fad like ska punk, .
Ska Punks been goign for time mate more of an underground/less comm thing, its no fucking Fad. I think you need to re-read the deffinition of fad. It dosnt need a capital letter for one.

Its easy to not understand somthing, and easier to say somthing supid like you just did.
sorry but i gotta say that your both right and wrong on this one. ska has been going on for a long time but it has crossed over into mainstream success and become a fad and back again. nothing to get bent about.
people still play with rubik's cubes. but they were definately a fad. it's like chuck tailors. been around for ever, always a classic. but there popularity with certain groups of people waxs and wanes

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Post by thomas » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:31 pm

Naw, the whole Ska Punk thing aint died down on a scale like any fad though. Its still masive, with new bands and loads of nights going in England alone.

Ska Punk > Dubstep

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Post by Littlefoot » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:56 pm

J_J wrote:
tronman wrote:
Alex bk-bk wrote: Jamie from Hadouken...
..was shockin out @ fwd before half of you knew what a subwoofer was.
still think this is irelevant, whos saying Jamie from Hadouken isn't a dubstepper in this thread? no one. So why does this keep coming up.
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Post by dubtitled » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:33 pm

Cant just have a crowd full of chin strokers though can you?

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Post by baddie » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:39 am

I must admit this new-rave scene crossover does kind of scare me. I've always liked to be into music that is obscure and different, although I don't really think I can rationally justify trying to keep a scene 'underground' for that reason.

It's defiantly good to see people's hard work paying off and getting wider exposure and bringing new people to a scene has got to be good as long as they are there to have fun!

This new-rave this seems to be happening all over the place in different ways.. how about the Trouble and Bass dances in New York. I've been to the blog a view times and it seems to meet all the criteria; hipsters, fashion, ironic use 80s/rap music...

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In saying that.. I would love to go, it looks like a great time and the mixes I've heard from these guys has been great

so maybe we should all get over ourselves... dubstep may of been your special little secret but its all grown up now.

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Post by ashley » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:41 am

Baddie wrote:I must admit this new-rave scene crossover does kind of scare me. I've always liked to be into music that is obscure and different, although I don't really think I can rationally justify trying to keep a scene 'underground' for that reason.

It's defiantly good to see people's hard work paying off and getting wider exposure and bringing new people to a scene has got to be good as long as they are there to have fun!

This new-rave this seems to be happening all over the place in different ways.. how about the Trouble and Bass dances in New York. I've been to the blog a view times and it seems to meet all the criteria; hipsters, fashion, ironic use 80s/rap music...

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In saying that.. I would love to go, it looks like a great time and the mixes I've heard from these guys has been great

so maybe we should all get over ourselves... dubstep may of been your special little secret but its all grown up now.
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WTF is that?

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Post by d_three » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:45 am

Ashley wrote:WTF is that?



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Post by cogi » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:47 am

Rob_O wrote:its like there taking the piss outta grime dubstep inaway
Yeah, I do agree that some times the way they may view other music may be slightly condescending but I still think it's good they are listening music that I enjoy listening to.
Shonky wrote:It's not like people aren't taking pictures of each other in dubstep and putting them on this forum or their myspace pages is it. It's basic snobbery and shouldn't be indulged. Why don't we just tell all the drum and bass heads, and reggae fans and hip hop people to stop coming into the genre at the same time.
Yeah it is kind of snobbish, think the whole "my music" thing gets very cliqueish especially between guitair-based music fans and others who listen to electronic/rap music. This mostly seems to come out amongst younger people though, as I've gotten older my tastes have spread and I've become more tolerant.

Be mature about it and appreciate the spread of the virus.

As shonky said "dubstep's not your special girl." (although sometimes I wish she was)
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Post by thomas » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:48 am

The red heads boom


might get myself down to one of these, chat bare shit about being a Dubstep DJ and all that crack. See where it gets me. :twisted:

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Post by cogi » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:53 am

Oh yeah I forgot to say that "thats nang" is such a funny name for a night.
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Post by westernsynthetics » Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:11 am

as soon as producers/DJ's & punters start taking Dubstep too seriously and over analysing the scene, thats when elitism & musical facisim begins.

seriously have a spliff and go back to the buttons, stop worrying about the scene and start worrying about the SOUND.

the sound is all that matters.

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Post by rekordah » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:36 am

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that girl wud be fit without the eye make-up tho :wink:
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