Vinyl, CD, CD->mp3(?), Vinyl->mp3(?), etc?

[Jas0n]

Fellas,

A growing trend speaking to the mainstream (I realize "the scene" works a bit differently) is the embrace of vinyl as opposed to the compact disc for music collection. People say that vinyl sounds warmer, and maybe it does. I understand that vinyl is essentially an analog pressing of the sound, so there is no loss (however minimal it may or may not have ever been) due to sample rates and so forth. What I'm struggling to understand is the relationship between these different formats start to finish.

Hypothetically a clean vinyl cut is the ideal reproduction of original sound. Numerically speaking, the CD format may have at one time been the pinnacle of digital technology, but at this time, the compact disc bit rate is woefully low by comparison to other digital formats, including for example DVD audio.

How does this relate to mp3 reproductions of sound? I'm assuming it is uncontestably true that any sound file of any format, if "ripped" from a CD, will suffer, at minimum, the same inadequacies as the CD sample rate suffers.

What for a vinyl rip? I haven't found a good explanation as to the relationship between these sample rates - for example, if CD quality dictates 44,100 samples per second at 16-bit accuracy, what digital format is required to catch all of that? There are all these different mp3 formats (v0, 320...), are any of them meeting CD quality? And, more importantly, if one were to start translating his vinyl collection into a digital format, would it be possible to exceed CD quality in terms of sample rate and accuracy?

I'm thinking here of sampling, among other things, but I'm also thinking simply of my music collection. Some of the vinyl I want is extremely expensive and frankly I'll probably never get to hear it (my wife would murder me if I dropped $250 on a record, when I've got a perfectly good CD right there), but as something of an audiophile... well, can someone shed some light on this? Cursory googling isn't quite getting it and you guys are, as far as I know, sound experts some of you.

[Dudeguybro]

I sample anything and everything, I have a mountain of vinyl that i spend no more than 1 dollar a piece on. I could probably get anywhere from 250-500 records for 250 dollars.
Although, I use that to make music, not dubstep.

Stop trying to find out what "the scene" is into, or what has the best "quality" its all going to get put down to that great 12- bit sound when its in your SP-1200, or 16-bit for an MPC2000/xl.

You should learn to make music, Learn to use samples, Then MAYBE stressing this stuff would be worth it.

[ehbes]

Bit harsh there man and you didn't really answer his question

[Sonika]

Dude.
Guy.
Brooooooo.

you don't have to be a dick about it

[Dudeguybro]

Dude.
Guy.
Brooooooo.

you don't have to be a dick about it

You are correct sir

[Dudeguybro]

Bit harsh there man and you didn't really answer his question

You are correct sir

[Sonika]

I know. That's why I said it

[Dudeguybro]

I know. That's why I said it

Are you unable to use the quote system?

[Sonika]

I know. That's why I said it

Are you unable to use the quote system?

Nope, just think it's unnecessary unless I'm addressing a specific point that people would be confused about if I didn't quote.

Otherwise, you get those long ass quote chains that are just unneeded.

[Dudeguybro]

I know. That's why I said it

Are you unable to use the quote system?

Nope, just think it's unnecessary unless I'm addressing a specific point that people would be confused about if I didn't quote.

Otherwise, you get those long ass quote chains that are just unneeded.

You are correct sir

[ehbes]

^ STOP!

[Dudeguybro]

^ STOP!

Hmmm ?

[ehbes]

Your passive aggression is too fucking much for 12:19 am

[Dudeguybro]

Your passive aggression is too fucking much for 12:19 am

Sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand

[Jas0n]

I sample anything and everything, I have a mountain of vinyl that i spend no more than 1 dollar a piece on. I could probably get anywhere from 250-500 records for 250 dollars.
Although, I use that to make music, not dubstep.

Stop trying to find out what "the scene" is into, or what has the best "quality" its all going to get put down to that great 12- bit sound when its in your SP-1200, or 16-bit for an MPC2000/xl.

You should learn to make music, Learn to use samples, Then MAYBE stressing this stuff would be worth it.

You aren't qualified to tell me what I should learn. And I don't care what "the scene" is into.

I'm not sure why you replied at all, as you clearly aren't knowledgeable enough to answer my question.

Also: fuck you.

[Dudeguybro]

I sample anything and everything, I have a mountain of vinyl that i spend no more than 1 dollar a piece on. I could probably get anywhere from 250-500 records for 250 dollars.
Although, I use that to make music, not dubstep.

Stop trying to find out what "the scene" is into, or what has the best "quality" its all going to get put down to that great 12- bit sound when its in your SP-1200, or 16-bit for an MPC2000/xl.

You should learn to make music, Learn to use samples, Then MAYBE stressing this stuff would be worth it.

You aren't qualified to tell me what I should learn. And I don't care what "the scene" is into.

I'm not sure why you replied at all, as you clearly aren't knowledgeable enough to answer my question.

Also: fuck you.

You seem angry brethren. Something on your mind?

[travis_baker]

this is funny.
correct me if im wrong, a wav is better then vynil, it is the rawest form... a 50mb pluss file. thats only for electronic music made on a daw mind you, if you were recording strait onto an analog mixing desk whith real instruments then yes vynil is better.

[ehbes]

I sample anything and everything, I have a mountain of vinyl that i spend no more than 1 dollar a piece on. I could probably get anywhere from 250-500 records for 250 dollars.
Although, I use that to make music, not dubstep.

Stop trying to find out what "the scene" is into, or what has the best "quality" its all going to get put down to that great 12- bit sound when its in your SP-1200, or 16-bit for an MPC2000/xl.

You should learn to make music, Learn to use samples, Then MAYBE stressing this stuff would be worth it.

You aren't qualified to tell me what I should learn. And I don't care what "the scene" is into.

I'm not sure why you replied at all, as you clearly aren't knowledgeable enough to answer my question.

Also: fuck you.

You seem angry brethren. Something on your mind?

Stop your shit Dude no one cares that your trying to act sophisticated and refined especially in prod.& tech

[Dystinkt]

I sample anything and everything, I have a mountain of vinyl that i spend no more than 1 dollar a piece on. I could probably get anywhere from 250-500 records for 250 dollars.
Although, I use that to make music, not dubstep.

Stop trying to find out what "the scene" is into, or what has the best "quality" its all going to get put down to that great 12- bit sound when its in your SP-1200, or 16-bit for an MPC2000/xl.

You should learn to make music, Learn to use samples, Then MAYBE stressing this stuff would be worth it.

bellend

[syrup]