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How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by stru » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:03 am

http://youtu.be/B0_BA9wGt-M

This song has it a lot. It's like it fades in after every beat, hard to explain. Like when you'd up the attack knob on a VST (only it's not that easy).
I'm fairly new to making stuff from scratch and not using presets :a: and I can't seem to get that sort of sound.
I've tried tutorials but can't seem to find that particular sound to make.
I have the sound in my head, and humming it along to my projects. Yet can't make that godamn sound! :u: :u: :u:

I use NI Massive and NeXus mostly, if that helps lol
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by Hircine » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:05 am

stru wrote:http://youtu.be/B0_BA9wGt-M

This song has it a lot. It's like it fades in after every beat, hard to explain. Like when you'd up the attack knob on a VST (only it's not that easy).
I'm fairly new to making stuff from scratch and not using presets :a: and I can't seem to get that sort of sound.
I've tried tutorials but can't seem to find that particular sound to make.
I have the sound in my head, and humming it along to my projects. Yet can't make that godamn sound! :u: :u: :u:

I use NI Massive and NeXus mostly, if that helps lol
That's most likely to be either sidechain compression on the synth or lfo on the volume knob.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by stru » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:06 am

Hircine wrote:That's most likely to be either sidechain compression on the synth or lfo on the volume knob.
How do side-chain compress?

My cousin was talking about something like that, but he uses Ableton and said it's impossible in FL Studio (which is what I use :| )
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by Hircine » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:09 am

a simple click on the search button http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... l#p2478539
Search and DSF google are powerful tools for starters man.
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bassbum wrote:The pheleleh tune I have never heard before and I did like it but its very simple and I could quickly recreate it.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by stru » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:11 am

It's more to it than just chaining mixer channels (in FL Studio anyway). It's basically the 'in and out' sound I'm looking for, you'd need something to control it via automation I believe. Those threads really didn't get into that kinda stuff.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by Hircine » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:15 am

stru wrote:It's more to it than just chaining mixer channels (in FL Studio anyway). It's basically the 'in and out' sound I'm looking for, you'd need something to control it via automation I believe. Those threads really didn't get into that kinda stuff.
just sidechain it with midi notes / mute the source. Those threads get into the method that you are looking to shape your sound.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by stru » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:24 am

Hircine wrote:
stru wrote:It's more to it than just chaining mixer channels (in FL Studio anyway). It's basically the 'in and out' sound I'm looking for, you'd need something to control it via automation I believe. Those threads really didn't get into that kinda stuff.
just sidechain it with midi notes / mute the source. Those threads get into the method that you are looking to shape your sound.
I'll have to look harder then lol thanks for the help, but this'll wait til tomorrow. My brain is sick of seeing this stuff and hearing that damn metronome. Bedtime.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by fragments » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:43 am

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... .20.2l34l0


Check it out. I use side chaining via the Fruity Limiter quite often to control bass sounds like you are talking about.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by RandoRando » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:02 pm

stru wrote:
Hircine wrote:
stru wrote:It's more to it than just chaining mixer channels (in FL Studio anyway). It's basically the 'in and out' sound I'm looking for, you'd need something to control it via automation I believe. Those threads really didn't get into that kinda stuff.
just sidechain it with midi notes / mute the source. Those threads get into the method that you are looking to shape your sound.
I'll have to look harder then lol thanks for the help, but this'll wait til tomorrow. My brain is sick of seeing this stuff and hearing that damn metronome. Bedtime.
im sorry but your cousin doesnt know what he is talking about, all DAWs can do what the other one does. To sidechain in FL use the limiters built in sidechain, or use the fruity peak controller.

YOUTUBE it, and you will get 1million and 1 ways on how to sidechain in FL dude.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by sunny_b_uk » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:31 pm

stru wrote:
Hircine wrote:That's most likely to be either sidechain compression on the synth or lfo on the volume knob.
How do side-chain compress?

My cousin was talking about something like that, but he uses Ableton and said it's impossible in FL Studio (which is what I use :| )
fl studio is one of the best DAW for sidechaining IMO, you can sidechain ANY parameter by using the peak controller.
search for a guide on the peak controller.

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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by VirtualMark » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:38 pm

Sidechaining is just an easy way to automate the volume on a sound. You could use host automation in the daw, volume automation via an lfo on the synth, envelopes on the synth, vst's like camel phat, cableguys volume shaper etc. Lots of ways to do this.

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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by Killamike49 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:45 pm

VirtualMark wrote:Sidechaining is just an easy way to automate the volume on a sound. You could use host automation in the daw, volume automation via an lfo on the synth, envelopes on the synth, vst's like camel phat, cableguys volume shaper etc. Lots of ways to do this.
But his cuz said he can't do it in FL! :6:
Anyway, i'll have a listen to the specific example when i get home, but unsynced ramps and saws should give you pretty much any In and out Bro bassline you can think of. Remember that in massive you can have the automation reversed too, drag down instead of up when setting the range of the LFO/Performer on the Cutoff or whatever,and it can create some unexpected sounds.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by stru » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:59 pm

Thanks for the help everyone! And I'll have to check out that link you posted with the Limiter. From what you guys say, the Limiter seems to be the best way to control it.

And idk, my cousin seems like an Ableton fanboy. Says it's more challenging so that means you can make better stuff. :corntard: wat
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by Killamike49 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:01 pm

stru wrote:Thanks for the help everyone! And I'll have to check out that link you posted with the Limiter. From what you guys say, the Limiter seems to be the best way to control it.

And idk, my cousin seems like an Ableton fanboy. Says it's more challenging so that means you can make better stuff. :corntard: wat
Show him this. http://www.renoise.com/
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by outdropt » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:44 pm

I would use compression like everyones saying. A nice effect on syths to give an in and out effect is use compression. Let it peak at bar 1 and 4, ramp down at 2 and up at 3. Longer attack on your operator,that would give a building up effect. Maybe through a band filter on and have your LFO modulate using a Saw up wave that repeats ever 4 bars. That would give you a nice platform to build bass around. I like to drop out the bass 1/2 a bar before 4 bar loop ends. Give you some anticipation for a drop.

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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by Toolman4 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:25 pm

The bassline is definitely sidechained, but I think it's a bit more than that. I think to really give that presence of a "swell" in the sound, automate a filter envelope with a long attack and little to no sustain on the envelope parameters.

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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:26 pm

did you try to use presets?
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by fragments » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:03 pm

BudSpencertron wrote:did you not use presets?
fixed.
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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by stru » Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:49 pm

Yeah guys I figured it out :) It's pretty easy lol I use the Fruity Peak Controller, it's so much simpler than the other ways. You can't exactly do as much customizing to it, but it gets the job done and with added FX, I could get the sound I want haha

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Re: How To Get That In and Out Brostep Bassline?

Post by zipperback » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:04 am

stru wrote: How do side-chain compress?
My cousin was talking about something like that, but he uses Ableton and said it's impossible in FL Studio (which is what I use :| )
There are numerous tutorials on how to do this.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... +fl+studio

If for some reason that link doesn't work, just search youtube with the words: sidechain compression fl studio


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