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SOPA & the battle for the Internet
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Here we go again...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17270817
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17270817
We take action on the 31st... http://www.facebook.com/events/183572751753787/BT and Talk Talk have lost an appeal over controversial measures to tackle copyright infringement online.
The internet service providers (ISPs) had argued the UK's Digital Economy Act was incompatible with EU law.
The Act will mean ISPs will have to send warning letters to alleged illegal file downloaders, as well as potentially cutting users off.
The creative industry argues that piracy costs £400m a year in lost revenue.
The firms' lawyers said the stricter measures could result in an invasion of privacy and run up disproportionate costs for both ISPs and consumers.
In a statement, Talk Talk said it was now "considering our options".
"We're disappointed that our appeal was unsuccessful though we welcome the additional legal clarity that has been provided for all parties," the company said.
"Though we have lost this appeal, we will continue fighting to defend our customers' rights against this ill-judged legislation."
A spokesman for BT said: "We have been seeking clarification from the courts that the DEA is consistent with European law, and legally robust in the UK, so that everyone can be confident in how it is implemented.
"Now that the court has made its decision, we will look at the judgment carefully to understand its implications and consider our next steps."
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The decision was welcomed by copyright advocates.
Christine Payne, general secretary of the Actors' union Equity, called on the ISPs to "stop fighting and start obeying the law".
"Once again the court is on the side of the almost two million workers in the creative industries whose livelihoods are put at risk because creative content is stolen on a daily basis," she said.
However Loz Kaye, the leader of the UK Pirate Party, argued there was no proof the measures outlined in the Act - such as cutting off users - aided the fight against illegal file-sharing.
"This decision brings the draconian Digital Economy Act another step closer," he said.
"The coalition government must be clear now once and for all on whether it supports this anti-internet piece of legislation.
"No-one has proved that the Act will help the creative industries financially, that is just lobbyists' spin.
"A recent study on a similar system in France suggests that there is no benefit for music sales. Threats to chuck entire households off the web will be bad for the economy, bad for society - and for us as a creative nation too."
'Proper scrutiny'
Adam Rendle, a copyright specialist at international law firm Taylor Wessing, said he expected BT and Talk Talk to now appeal to the UK's Supreme Court.
He added that it was also likely the companies would step up lobbying efforts, perhaps harnessing support from groups recently protesting against the US Stop Online Piracy Act (Sopa) and the EU's proposed Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (Acta).
"We know how keen internet users are to protect what they see as freedom of speech," Mr Rendle told the BBC.
"When the Digital Economy Act itself was passed in the dying stages of the Labour government, there was a huge amount of disquiet that this kind of important legislation was being introduced without proper scrutiny.
"That kind of disquiet didn't result in the kind of action we've seen against Acta and Sopa. It wouldn't be surprising to see a lot more public outcry than there was when the Act was first passed."
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Im in favor of trying to stop piracy but this just doesnt make sense, alot of money will be lost with very little gain in the creative industry
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fucking stnuc, this pisses me off sooooo much
Ignorant stnuc have no clue this won't help 1 bit
Ignorant stnuc have no clue this won't help 1 bit
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The downfall of Lulzsec, even Anonymous is nothing, there are many 2 and 3 year olds already very proficient in computer use - parents are making sure. We see ourselves as the cyber generation, but we're really just the precursor to the real cyber-generation.The US government are killing themselves; the more difficult they attempt to make it to pirate things, the more proficient people are going to have to be with computers in order to obtain pirated things. Cyberspace is almost inevitably going to be where their biggest threat comes from in future, and in trying to protect their industries they are simply developing the abilities of potential enemies. Still they need the media to perpertuate their agenda, so they've gotta protect it - and in protecting it, they will hand hammers and chisels to their enemies. "House of cards" comes to mind.
Still even if (and I think it's inevitable the way things are going) there's a hacktivist group that ever manages to cause "real" problems in the future, this Sabu incident has just convinced me even more that they're just going to use that power for their own designs.
Still even if (and I think it's inevitable the way things are going) there's a hacktivist group that ever manages to cause "real" problems in the future, this Sabu incident has just convinced me even more that they're just going to use that power for their own designs.
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Looks like its time for round two, this time we're up against CISPA aswell, we'll be marching on the 9th if anyone is interested.
Global day of action and PROTEST against ACTA and as a local (to UK) extra - the Digital Economy Act that was rail-roaded through the final days of the last Labour government. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17270817.
UK EVENTS ;
Birmingham......https://www.facebook.com/events/433857226640363/
Liverpool......http://www.facebook.com/events/304931269584227/
Bristol.......... https://www.facebook.com/events/225775334198471/
Cardiff......... https://www.facebook.com/events/281454315279230/
Bournemouth...http://www.facebook.com/events/260578377373712
Chelmsford.... https://www.facebook.com/events/215663265213925/
Glasgow....... https://www.facebook.com/events/429268643767509/
London......... https://www.facebook.com/events/375860459131311/
Manchester.......https://www.facebook.com/events/352102154853784
More details to follow.
Looks like SOPA/PIPA is not as dead as we would have liked either - the Americans have to fight CISPA too now. - very much like the snooping powers that our own government has backed down on (for now). For info on CISPA see http://youranonnews.tumblr.com/post/213 ... -cispa-the
People may also have interest in taking part in the more general democratic actions on 12th May. We were for a time going to have this march as part of that but it makes mor sense to co-ordinate with the specifically ACTA pritests across Europe on 9th June. Think 11th Feb but EVEN BIGGER.
https://www.facebook.com/events/375860459131311/
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well ACTA is no more....in europe at least...voted this morning 479 against to 39 in favour in brussels...i suppose it's a good sign for sopa and the other acts trying to be introduced
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