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FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by VirtualMark » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:53 am

Another new product from FXpansion. This is a filter vst, built on circuit modelled technology! Looks interesting, i've just downloaded the demo to try. Theoretically, circuit modelling should sound the same or very close to real analog, except that it uses a lot more cpu.


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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by nowaysj » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:03 am

Pretty exciting.
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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by Eat Bass » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:46 am

Think it would be worth getting over say fab filter volcano or tone 2 bifilter?

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by VirtualMark » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:47 am

Tough to say, i'd try the demo out and see what you think. I've been playing with it, and to be honest it sounds pretty awesome. Not too cpu heavy either.

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by Eat Bass » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:10 am

VirtualMark wrote:Tough to say, i'd try the demo out and see what you think. I've been playing with it, and to be honest it sounds pretty awesome. Not too cpu heavy either.
niceee. hows the modulation capabilities. i have wow filter and it has its place, but i think in the future a nice analog modeled filter would be handy.

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by nowaysj » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:29 am

Every couple of weeks, you see a post, looking for a new filter... everyone is looking for a good sounding filter in vst form. God, it would be nice if this was it. I'd gladly shell one hundo for a really good sounding filter.
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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by VirtualMark » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:02 pm

There's a lot of modulation capabilities, but its a bit fiddly. Seems to be a bug, but when i rendered an audio file, the automation didn't work in cubase. So i had to record to another track, a bit annoying but i guess it'll be patched soon.

There's a lot of automation through midi, which i find a bit awkward. Things like triggering the lfo start phase has to be done by midi, rather than just syncing to host and letting you set the phase. But there's several midi channels, you can control the filter cutoff via midi and lots more. So its a bit of a trade off.

Another nice thing it has is oversampling, quite handy when you're abusing these filters. And there's audio rate lfo's, so you can fm the filters too.

I've been playing on them for ages now, really addictive.

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by shroomhead1 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:10 pm

the more complex filter types they have there are the hybrid ones in their Synth Squad VST Synths- and they're amazing with the DCAM Waveshaper after that- really worth a look
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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by Undrig » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:17 pm

Really impressed with this thing so far. In contrast to what someone else said, I find this to be the most cpu intensive standalone filter I can think of. Sounds great with ohmicide too on a simply reese.

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by wormcode » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:02 pm

I didn't like it. Nice modulation options but not a great sound imo. If it weren't a no-brainer deal I'd say pass...

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by hasezwei » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:30 pm

tbh i didnt enjoy it either, tried the demo and found the presets to be horrible. didnt get great results myself either.

but dont take my word, it took me over a year to find a use for the wow filter, now it's an essential tool for basslines.

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by nowaysj » Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:30 pm

Really didn't like etch? I really did like it. Felt it had a sound like nothing else, like raw. Gonna have to demo again. I was set to buy this no brainer.
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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by nowaysj » Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:00 pm

If you don't like etch, you = -r-

Buying that shit!
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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by sunny_b_uk » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:44 pm

nowaysj wrote:If you don't like etch, you = -r-

Buying that shit!
i only dont like it because i demo'ed it and seen how much of an extreme CPU hog it is.

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by wormcode » Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:08 am

nowaysj wrote:If you don't like etch, you = -r-

Buying that shit!
Yeah for 20 it's whatever. But the original price over 100, nope...
I found it plastic sounding, but I demoed it when it was new. I dunno if they have updated the sound/filters since. I have been waiting for its competitor The Drop (http://www.cytomic.com/cytomic-announce ... ter-plugin) which is coded by the guy who coded the best DCAM filters, and by contract FXPansion could not use his code in Etch.

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by nowaysj » Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:15 am

What is the price of that going to be?

Like a Hindi? Haba Apple idiots. Like a HUNDO!?

With the distortion component of etch I've just gotten really raw sounds out of the filter. Actually like the sound of the comb.

Which filters from dcam did homie code?
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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by VirtualMark » Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:16 am

Those of you who don't like Etch - what filters do you use? It seems hard to find good digital filters that don't alias or sound harsh when pushed to the extreme.

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Re: FXpansion Etch - Analog modelled filters!

Post by wormcode » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:24 am

nowaysj wrote:What is the price of that going to be?

Like a Hindi? Haba Apple idiots. Like a HUNDO!?

With the distortion component of etch I've just gotten really raw sounds out of the filter. Actually like the sound of the comb.

Which filters from dcam did homie code?
I assume around the same price as his compressor The Glue as well as a competitive price for Etch. I think I remember reading 79, but I dunno what currency that was...
The Drop is all new DSP/filters, but that guy knows his stuff inside and out. He is also the one who helped make the ones in Alchemy. Here's some interesting info: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/product- ... -etch.html

VirtualMark- Well, Etch isn't horrible or anything. Especially at the no-brainer price! Just wasn't feeling the sound when I demoed it before, but I will try it again because of this deal. Soft filters I like are Filtroid, BiFilter, Filterfreak, TAL Filter (similar to Massive performer), RS Raphael, Ohm Frohmage, normal EQ plugins... I hear great things about the U-he effects line, but I don't have them. I'd look into those for sure though especially with the reputation behind his synths.

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