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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by Le3ion » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:26 pm

Not sure if this is mentioned in the FL manual, but I'm at work and cannot check atm.

When you "Route to this track only" with busses, that links one mixer insert to the "bus insert". Can you then link that same mixer insert to another bus?

E.g I have a synth routed to insert 1. I've routed this to insert 2, my synth bus (along with other synths) and then I also want to route insert 1 to insert 3 as well (Possibly a bass bus).

Explained correctly? Not sure :?

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by mitchAUS » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:19 pm

I havnt used fl studio in 2 or 3 years but i think i remember how. If you click on an insert channel in the mixer window to select the channel, you can click the little arrow thing above where it says FX on each channel you want to route to. In the picture insert 4 in only routed to master as its the only channel where the little arrow section has turned orange. If you want to bus tracks, click the arrow bit on the desired tracks and deselect the arrow on the master. This will send all of the signal through the bus and then from the bus/s to the master. If you leave it routed to the master as well some of the signal will bypass the busses and go strait for the master (which is useful for parallel processing but not for grouping).


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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by Cubicle » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:20 pm

I don't know if this is so extremely embarrasing.

I just found my uncle's Korg Poly-800 and his Roland TR-505.
How can I hook these up on my pc and play with it inside Logic?

It has Midi in but I can't hook-up the midi to my computer. Is there some sort of Midi-USB cable?

Or am I just missing out on something?

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by Triphosphate » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:27 pm

If you have a basic audio interface you can sample straight from it. As for midi: what sound card do you have?

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by mitchAUS » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:14 am

Cubicle wrote:I don't know if this is so extremely embarrasing.

I just found my uncle's Korg Poly-800 and his Roland TR-505.
How can I hook these up on my pc and play with it inside Logic?

It has Midi in but I can't hook-up the midi to my computer. Is there some sort of Midi-USB cable?

Or am I just missing out on something?

Thanks
You can get midi to usb interfaces for next to nothing. But all you will be sending to ur computer is midi information so they will just act as controllers. If you want the sounds from the instruments you will need to record through your audio interface as post above says.

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by Cubicle » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:51 am

Triphosphate wrote:If you have a basic audio interface you can sample straight from it. As for midi: what sound card do you have?
I have a basic audio interface. How can I sample it than? Sorry for the double question, but I really have no clue where to start.
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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by mitchAUS » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:03 am

Cubicle wrote:
Triphosphate wrote:If you have a basic audio interface you can sample straight from it. As for midi: what sound card do you have?
I have a basic audio interface. How can I sample it than? Sorry for the double question, but I really have no clue where to start.
what interface? You want the audio output of the poly-800 or the tr-505 to feed to the audio input of your interface. Depends on the outputs/inputs of each which cables you use. Then its just a case of going into the preferences of your daw and making sure the input device is your audio interface and not set to something like "none" or "built in microphone". Then if you have record enabled in a track you should be able to monitor and record the adio as you play whatever instrument is patched in.

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by Cubicle » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:33 am

mitchAUS wrote:
Cubicle wrote:
Triphosphate wrote:If you have a basic audio interface you can sample straight from it. As for midi: what sound card do you have?
I have a basic audio interface. How can I sample it than? Sorry for the double question, but I really have no clue where to start.
what interface? You want the audio output of the poly-800 or the tr-505 to feed to the audio input of your interface. Depends on the outputs/inputs of each which cables you use. Then its just a case of going into the preferences of your daw and making sure the input device is your audio interface and not set to something like "none" or "built in microphone". Then if you have record enabled in a track you should be able to monitor and record the adio as you play whatever instrument is patched in.
I got the Cakewalk UA1G Audio Interface. Going to try it out tonight. Thanks!
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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by JTMMusicuk » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:45 am

Cubicle wrote:
mitchAUS wrote:
Cubicle wrote:
Triphosphate wrote:If you have a basic audio interface you can sample straight from it. As for midi: what sound card do you have?
I have a basic audio interface. How can I sample it than? Sorry for the double question, but I really have no clue where to start.
what interface? You want the audio output of the poly-800 or the tr-505 to feed to the audio input of your interface. Depends on the outputs/inputs of each which cables you use. Then its just a case of going into the preferences of your daw and making sure the input device is your audio interface and not set to something like "none" or "built in microphone". Then if you have record enabled in a track you should be able to monitor and record the adio as you play whatever instrument is patched in.
I got the Cakewalk UA1G Audio Interface. Going to try it out tonight. Thanks!
that hasnt got midi in.out you'll either need to get a midi-usb cable for about £12 off amazon or get a new interface which has midi in and out

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by wub » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:48 am

Perej wrote:How do I make just a standard bassline? I don't want any wobble shit on it. I just want a straight forward bassline. I know how to make one in massive with one osc and just lowering the cutoff with a lowpass filter but it sounds pretty shit. What should I be using? When I make it in massive it is so hard to make it sound good in the mix, it just doesn't sit properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmxyL--7 ... re=related

Joy O does the kind of thing I want to do, it's just a bass that sits in the background, if that makes sense, that might not be the best tune to show what I mean however.
If you're using FL, try switching to 3xOsc instead of Massive. The waveforms are (IMO) more straightforward to understand.

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by JTMMusicuk » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:54 am

wub wrote:
Perej wrote:How do I make just a standard bassline? I don't want any wobble shit on it. I just want a straight forward bassline. I know how to make one in massive with one osc and just lowering the cutoff with a lowpass filter but it sounds pretty shit. What should I be using? When I make it in massive it is so hard to make it sound good in the mix, it just doesn't sit properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmxyL--7 ... re=related

Joy O does the kind of thing I want to do, it's just a bass that sits in the background, if that makes sense, that might not be the best tune to show what I mean however.
If you're using FL, try switching to 3xOsc instead of Massive. The waveforms are (IMO) more straightforward to understand.
really? 3xOsc always used to confuse the shit out of me when i was on fl

and pere, you will learn with time, theres so many different ways to manipulate your oscillators to make them suit your track,; too many for this thread
I would suggest lurking around the 'how to make this sound' thread or just the production forum in general

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by wub » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:15 am

I've always found 3xOsc to be a lot easier to get my head round than Massive, especially in terms of waveform combining.

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by Cubicle » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:00 am

JTMMusicuk wrote:
Cubicle wrote:
mitchAUS wrote:
Cubicle wrote:
Triphosphate wrote:If you have a basic audio interface you can sample straight from it. As for midi: what sound card do you have?
I have a basic audio interface. How can I sample it than? Sorry for the double question, but I really have no clue where to start.
what interface? You want the audio output of the poly-800 or the tr-505 to feed to the audio input of your interface. Depends on the outputs/inputs of each which cables you use. Then its just a case of going into the preferences of your daw and making sure the input device is your audio interface and not set to something like "none" or "built in microphone". Then if you have record enabled in a track you should be able to monitor and record the adio as you play whatever instrument is patched in.
I got the Cakewalk UA1G Audio Interface. Going to try it out tonight. Thanks!
that hasnt got midi in.out you'll either need to get a midi-usb cable for about £12 off amazon or get a new interface which has midi in and out
Ye but I just want to sample it. Record the sounds I can make with it. Then I don't need a midi or am I mistaken?
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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by JTMMusicuk » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:11 am

yeah then your fine mitchaus hit the nail on the head like

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Post by leeany » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:11 pm

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by Kierke » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:29 pm

Attila wrote:I'm not sure how basic this question is, but whenever I'm putting together drops one of the few problems I have is that all my sounds aren't as tight and cohesive as I think they should be.I know a lot of people say it comes down to compressing and using the right effects, etc... so is it really as easy as putting reverb and a compressor on a couple send tracks and tweaking them? Listening to for example Madeon's Island remix, all the little melodies and sounds just work together so well (technically speaking).
I know a few producers that will resample all their drop mids in a group and just insert the sound toys decapitator (analogue saturation modeler) or PSP vintage warmer. You can really gel sounds together with very subtle use of these. But they're not a replacement for a solid, well-produced mix.

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by mitchAUS » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:47 am

Cubicle wrote:Ye but I just want to sample it. Record the sounds I can make with it. Then I don't need a midi or am I mistaken?
Might still be worth investing in the midi to usb if you want to send midi to the synths from your daw. That way you can write stuff in the piano roll and send that midi information to your synths and then record the audio back into your DAW.

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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by Cubicle » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:17 am

Gonna try that out than, thanks for the quick help!

Another maybe embarrasing question. Is it wrong to use reverb on a kick that's in mono?
I've always been told that this cancels out the mono function on the kick.
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Post by didi » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:53 am

Cubicle wrote:Gonna try that out than, thanks for the quick help!

Another maybe embarrasing question. Is it wrong to use reverb on a kick that's in mono?
I've always been told that this cancels out the mono function on the kick.
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Re: The extremely embarrasing basic question thread

Post by mitchAUS » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:32 am

Cubicle wrote:Gonna try that out than, thanks for the quick help!

Another maybe embarrasing question. Is it wrong to use reverb on a kick that's in mono?
I've always been told that this cancels out the mono function on the kick.
If you high pass the reverb, the dry, low frequencies will still be in mono as they are not effected by the reverb. If your still worried, put the reverb on a send. That way the dry channel will have no mono->stereo plugins on it at all, and you can high pass the reverb bus and that that separately.

So technically no, it won't necessarily cancel out the mono function of the kick if you high pass the verb. I haven't really experimented with this technique much though so experiment with it and see if it changed the low end presence of the kick. It also depends what sort of verb your throwing on there too. Personally if i was experimenting with this i would solo the kick and set the reverb's decay time room size etc until i had the kick sound i was after then high pass the reverb so high its barely audible. Then unsolo the kick and loop a section of the track, click on the fader/nob for the high pass cutoff, close my eyes and bring down the cutoff until it started to sound muddy, basically finding the sweetspot where the reverb its masking the body and punch of the kick. Then open my eyes and look at what frequency i ended up at and take note of it. Id then switch the master to mono take the cut off way back up and repeat the process and see where i end up. If it ends up same ballpark as when i did it in stereo id move on satisfied.

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