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grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Sykotic » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:42 pm

been listening to loads of wiley instrumentals these past few days and there's something distinct about his bass that i cant seem to replicate (dont want to bred but if i kno how he did it would motivate me to explore the sound a little more) it. im using fruity loops and can create a decent grime bass using 3xosc but not like wileys. any tips? also pls explain easily am a bit of a :dunce: when it comes to fl

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by hutyluty » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:44 pm

this might not be what youre looking for but ive got some good grime basses out of distorting kick drums
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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by jaydot » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:47 pm

Some old skool garage/bassline packs have some nice warp basses that with the right ammount of tuning can come close to an eski bass, if I'm picturing the right sound.
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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:52 pm

oscs mixed with squares and lp filter envs with slow attack, slight distortion and a incy bit of verb to colo(u)r.
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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by .onelove. » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:03 pm

Two square waves, detuned very sightly against each other, quick attack, small delay, no sustain, medium release.

That's pretty much it I find, no filtering or effects needed. Post up what you're working on, I've been attempting some eski bits lately, not enough of it around IMO.

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Sykotic » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:56 pm

this is da eski bass thats been on my mind





safe for all the tips, gonna try it when i get home. and i aint really layed down anything solid so not gonna post up till im comfortable with it ;-)

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Sykotic » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:47 pm

bump. also having trouble creating it as 'wavey/slidey' as eskiboy does it eventho im using portamento :?

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by VirtualMark » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:46 pm

let me know how you get on, i love wileys beats!

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Toric » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:53 pm

Here's a breakdown of the methods I use, but there are plenty other effective methods!

Method 1 - Subtractive/Wavetable synth:
If you have a Wavetable synth, you can select and Organ wave (on the third oscillator preferably). I've got a crappy vocabulary, so I apologize. I'm talking about a synth like the ES2 in Logic.

Method 2 - Distortion:
If I want to put some grime or dirt I usually use a bitcrusher and or a multi-band distortion. I like Ohmicide, but I'm not good with it. Going to try out Izotope, as I like it's family of products.

Here's a thread on distortion plug-ins

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Dublicious » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:33 pm

Sykotic wrote:bump. also having trouble creating it as 'wavey/slidey' as eskiboy does it eventho im using portamento :?
That's the envelope mate, by creating like a build in the envelope shape and lowering it, it creates a sliding sort of effect, like maxed out portamento, reverb will help it gel even more

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Toric » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:09 am

Dublicious wrote:
Sykotic wrote:bump. also having trouble creating it as 'wavey/slidey' as eskiboy does it eventho im using portamento :?
That's the envelope mate, by creating like a build in the envelope shape and lowering it, it creates a sliding sort of effect, like maxed out portamento, reverb will help it gel even more
He may also be looking for a glyder effect.

What synth or sampler are you using?

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by lazermouse » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:22 pm



Now, how do I make a bass like this? Any of those variations will do. I've tried different things with square waves but no luck so far...

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:34 pm

The sound Wiley used is a patch from a Korg Triton called feedbacklead or something but there are similar presets in Massive for you to dissect, if you are struggling to work out the mechanics of the sound. They are based around slightly detuned squares and feedback to create the higher harmonics.
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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Hircine » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:47 pm

Pedro Sánchez wrote:The sound Wiley used is a patch from a Korg Triton called feedbacklead or something but there are similar presets in Massive for you to dissect, if you are struggling to work out the mechanics of the sound. They are based around slightly detuned squares and feedback to create the higher harmonics.
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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by lazermouse » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:31 pm

Pedro Sánchez wrote:The sound Wiley used is a patch from a Korg Triton called feedbacklead or something but there are similar presets in Massive for you to dissect, if you are struggling to work out the mechanics of the sound. They are based around slightly detuned squares and feedback to create the higher harmonics.
Thanks! Have to try that feedback thing.

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Demos » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:44 pm

square waves...

if you want this exact 'eski bass' patch, its on the korg triton called 'gliding squares'

also those distinctive drum sounds he uses in his songs such as 'ice rink' are from the emu mo phatt
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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Shum » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:51 pm

Toric wrote:Here's a breakdown of the methods I use, but there are plenty other effective methods!...
I forgot about this dude. :lol:

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Re: grimey eski/wiley bass

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:08 pm

Demos wrote:square waves...

if you want this exact 'eski bass' patch, its on the korg triton called 'gliding squares'
Yeah that's one,the feedbacklead patch was the switched lead.
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