Quick DAW opinion question

[Dy-nasty]

Yeah the workflow in ableton is ok in my opinion, I guess the only thing is because I work with 2 monitors I would prefer the song layout and channel view (whatever it is called) to be 2 different windows instead of haivng to swich back and forth every time. I guess mostly I am just getting sick of getting only a quarter way through a song while already maxing my CPU out (or ableton to be more exact).

Ok so basically since I cannot get Cubase to work on my computer (and thanks electric head for the opinion about Cubase) I feel like i should decide between FL 10 or Reaper.

[Perej]

Yeah the workflow in ableton is ok in my opinion, I guess the only thing is because I work with 2 monitors I would prefer the song layout and channel view (whatever it is called) to be 2 different windows instead of haivng to swich back and forth every time. I guess mostly I am just getting sick of getting only a quarter way through a song while already maxing my CPU out (or ableton to be more exact).

Ok so basically since I cannot get Cubase to work on my computer (and thanks electric head for the opinion about Cubase) I feel like i should decide between FL 10 or Reaper.

Ableton is sick but it's Ableton LIVE for a reason, I've always found it lends itself to performance more than production, but meh.

FL is great, though alot of the stock plugins are absolute shite, I still use it quite a bit.

Out of all the producers I've ever spoken to, none of them have used reaper.

Cubase is sickkkk.

[OfficialDAPT]

Yeah the workflow in ableton is ok in my opinion, I guess the only thing is because I work with 2 monitors I would prefer the song layout and channel view (whatever it is called) to be 2 different windows instead of haivng to swich back and forth every time. I guess mostly I am just getting sick of getting only a quarter way through a song while already maxing my CPU out (or ableton to be more exact).

Ok so basically since I cannot get Cubase to work on my computer (and thanks electric head for the opinion about Cubase) I feel like i should decide between FL 10 or Reaper.

Ableton is sick but it's Ableton LIVE for a reason, I've always found it lends itself to performance more than production, but meh.

FL is great, though alot of the stock plugins are absolute shite, I still use it quite a bit.

Out of all the producers I've ever spoken to, none of them have used reaper.

Cubase is sickkkk.

I've never used it live and it's the most powerful arrangement tool I've used yet. A few notches above FL Studio IMHO. The only thing holding it back is that it's 32 bit, that pisses me off.

[Dy-nasty]

Hmmm I wish cubase would work on my computer haha! Its so frustrating. Some reason the SNYOPOS.exe thing wont let it run..even the demo. I have taken a look at reaper however. So far it seems quite nice. I love how you can organize the vsts in different folders...doing that is quite difficult in Ableton.

[Sintax makes bass]

ReaFIR is great as well. Works as multiple plugins and a Linear-Phase EQ. Huge latency and not the best quality output, but its freeware

[VirtualMark]

First it may be just the version I am using but it seems to be a CPU hog and I have a pretty decent computer.

Second, it wont recognize certain VSTs--i have tried them in other programs such as the reaper or FL demo and they work fine.

I was considering Cubase but have been unable to get the demo working on my computer.

It sounds like there's a problem with your computer more than anything. If its decent it should run ableton with no problems. It should also be able to run cubase. I'd suggest getting it fixed.

[pesky]

you've gotta have an e-licenser/dongle thing from either Cubase 5 or another program which uses that feature, to run the Cubase 6 demo.
however, look for the Cubase 6 Elements demo which is a cut down version of Cubase 6, you just need to sign up for a steinberg account to download it.
it runs out in 30 days though.

[Dy-nasty]

Ah ok thank you. Do you know if Elements does the regular version of cubase any justice--will it give me an idea of what it is like/how good it is? Basically now once I try cubase it is between cubase, reaper, and FL. I do realize now that Ableton has some nice features just the CPU issue is such a downer :/.

[e-motion]

Midi capabilities in Reaper are better than FL, Cubase, etc.
Not sure why you wish they were better?

Care to explain why?

[Fingerflexor]

I <3 Ableton, but the CPU issue is getting really annoying lately, at times I end up exporting various unfinished versions just so I can get a good listen through without those goddamn cpu cracklefarts

[Dy-nasty]

Yeah thats my biggest problem like i said. I would often export my song just to hear it. I mean obviously I can do resampling but many times I will want to go back and tweak various settings within a vst so the resampling only works with so many things.

[OfficialDAPT]

I <3 Ableton, but the CPU issue is getting really annoying lately, at times I end up exporting various unfinished versions just so I can get a good listen through without those goddamn cpu cracklefarts

Right on im pissed at ableton for not being 64 bit... Sometimes the crackling gets so bad its like somebody is shitting in my ear.

[pesky]

Ah ok thank you. Do you know if Elements does the regular version of cubase any justice--will it give me an idea of what it is like/how good it is? Basically now once I try cubase it is between cubase, reaper, and FL. I do realize now that Ableton has some nice features just the CPU issue is such a downer :/.

um yes and no, theres quite alot missing if you look here: http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/cu ... rison.html

you can get a feel for the software but i couldnt really make a judgement as to whether i was going to buy it or not.

i dont really have CPU issues on Ableton, well i havent as of yet so dont know pal?

[e-motion]

I can confirm that Ableton is more CPU intensive than Cubase, but the workflow beats this problem.

Have you tried to freeze tracks?

[Attila]

As an Ableton user, it seems like a lot of people use fl because it's easy/intuitive, but I've been messing around with it recently and I can honestly say it's a nightmare to navigate in comparison. My screen always ends up being this crazy mess of plugin windows and other little popups...Live's interface is just so clean and organized. Everything's always on screen and there's no digging through menus to find shit. After playing with other daws I feel lucky that it was the first one I began using. It just feels like a streamlined, professional piece of software.

[pesky]

FL is a fucking nightmare in my opinion if you only have a single monitor setup.
In life im a very tidy person and i spend most of my time cleaning up the screen when on FL rather than making music which is why i didnt proceed to purchase it after i tried the demo.

[Dy-nasty]

Yes I have tried to feeze tracks. But it only helps so much and if you have any sidechain compression then you cannot freeze the tracks that include it...I am not sure why Ableton cannot temporarily convert it to audio with sidechain compression.

[OfficialDAPT]

Yes I have tried to feeze tracks. But it only helps so much and if you have any sidechain compression then you cannot freeze the tracks that include it...I am not sure why Ableton cannot temporarily convert it to audio with sidechain compression.

Yes but that is usually a hassle and it pisses me off. 32-bit is so 5 years ago haha... hurry up Ableton 9...

[Dy-nasty]

Yes I have tried to feeze tracks. But it only helps so much and if you have any sidechain compression then you cannot freeze the tracks that include it...I am not sure why Ableton cannot temporarily convert it to audio with sidechain compression.

Yes but that is usually a hassle and it pisses me off. 32-bit is so 5 years ago haha... hurry up Ableton 9...

I completely agree. Im so sick of waiting though and thats why I want to find an alt DAW. They should have come out with a 64bit a while ago

[pesky]

hurry up Ableton 9...