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What to resample

Post by invictus » Mon May 07, 2012 7:48 pm

Hey
What do you guys resample? I'm not used to this technique and I have all my synths as vsts..
I don't know when and what to resample.. it demotivates me in a way :(
Do you resample one note from your basslines or the whole part?
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Re: What to resample

Post by Huts » Mon May 07, 2012 8:02 pm

If you don't know when or why you'd want to resample, then just don't resample. I bounce basses because I like keeping the automation I've put on their consistent each time a sounds played (because a lot of my automation is LFO's which sound different depending on when the sounds triggered). Resample stuff out of necessity not just because everyone says you must resample your bass 30 times to get the gnarliest sounds.
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Re: What to resample

Post by therapist » Mon May 07, 2012 8:07 pm

Huts wrote:If you don't know when or why you'd want to resample, then just don't resample..
This. Soooo many thread in this section could be answered with (basically) this phrase. It's not some magical process that changes your sound, it's just a matter of convenience/flexibility that sometimes lets you be a bit more creative / save cpu.

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Re: What to resample

Post by invictus » Mon May 07, 2012 8:13 pm

Oh, okay, that clears it up a bit.
People say they resample to get dirtier/ more aggresive bass sound.
Wouldn't they achieve the same effect by putting all the effects on vst track? Because as far as I'm concerned it looks like this:
sound synthesis -> resampling -> adding effects -> ( resampling -> adding effects ) x times
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Re: What to resample

Post by deadly_habit » Mon May 07, 2012 8:22 pm

basically, resampling is used when your effects chain gets long winded, or your automation is getting to be a pain
you resample to start again
it doesn't make your sound dirtier or more aggressive, that's your effects chain
resampling just helps reduce the clutter during the process

ie: bassline in my sig is sampled from a reese i made in massive, loaded into a sampler and split into 2 bands (could have used 3 but i muted the low end and used a seperate sine wave for my sub), used a variety of effects and automation within the sampler to achieve movement and sound i wanted, out to 2 seperate channels with some more processing, then routed into a group channel to glue it back together with some more effects

this should give you an idea where the clutter comes in and where your cpu and ram could be getting eaten up on a machine that can't handle all of these processes, but it's also worth noting that if i was to resample at this point it is a destructive process and i wouldn't be able to go back and tweak any of the settings i have currently

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Re: What to resample

Post by Siquan » Mon May 07, 2012 8:28 pm

there are things you can do in audio you cant in midi...and vice versa of course, in audio you can reverse and timestretch as examples. so sometimes its just to open up new and different editing options. Also sometimes i bounce because of modulation in the synth is causing inconsistant notes (which can also be a good thing somtimes) and i just want the way one of the notes is sounding to carry through.

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Re: What to resample

Post by Huts » Mon May 07, 2012 8:29 pm

A lot of that has to do with saving CPU, and each time you bounce to audio is basically hitting 'save' on your patch. Like I mentioned before your bounced audio also stays consistent where as if you just play your bass in MIDI with a ton of effects being modulated that won't be the case. For example if I put a notch filter controlled by an LFO, the filter is going to be moving differently on the first beat than it will on the 4th beat. If you like the way the transients hit on the first beat, bounce that and now your starting sound always has that nice punch you originally liked. Same goes for if you play a bass note over say 4 bars and you like how it sounds 2 bars in, bounce it and cut out that piece, play it before/after that other punchy note you bounced etc etc.

Resampling just allows you to take the best parts of your bass and do with them as you please. Just bouncing everything to audio every time you add an effect or 2 isn't going to do you any good if you don't understand why you're resampling and what you want to get out of it.
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Re: What to resample

Post by Huts » Mon May 07, 2012 8:30 pm

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Re: What to resample

Post by lloydy » Mon May 07, 2012 8:44 pm

One of the good things about resampling is you amass quite a lot of your own audio to reuse in projects.I now have no end of different blines and trippy effects i can change up and use in other projects.
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