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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Chris mack » Fri May 25, 2012 11:10 am

Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Distortion ------->Compressor ------>Compressor ----->Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor
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Re: Effects Chain Orders

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Perfecture » Fri May 25, 2012 11:46 am

Chris mack wrote:Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Distortion ------->Compressor ------>Compressor ----->Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor
Nice chain, but you could do with using a compressor in there somewhere

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by NinjaEdit » Fri May 25, 2012 1:31 pm

Perfecture wrote:
Chris mack wrote:Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Distortion ------->Compressor ------>Compressor ----->Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor
Nice chain, but you could do with using a compressor in there somewhere
I would drop the distortion.

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by syrup » Fri May 25, 2012 1:40 pm

jonahmann wrote:
Perfecture wrote:
Chris mack wrote:Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Distortion ------->Compressor ------>Compressor ----->Compressor ------>Compressor ------>Compressor
Nice chain, but you could do with using a compressor in there somewhere
I would drop the distortion.
Yeah, multiband compressor instead would do
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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Dy-nasty » Fri May 25, 2012 3:55 pm

narcissus wrote:my usual effect chain for basses is

synth -> distortion -> compression -> brickwall limiter -> distortion -> distortion -> reverb -> distortion -> delay -> distortion -> tube saturation -> brickwall limiter -> gate -> EQ -> distortion -> multiband compressor -> multiband compressor -> multiband compressor

gets that nice growling diarrhea wobble bass. make sure to set compressors to 1:1 ratio. this step is very important.
Im skeptical about this considering there is so much compression and limiting...in the limiting alone wouldnt that chain become distorted with over limiting or are you very light on the threshold?

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Climax » Fri May 25, 2012 4:13 pm

I dont think those are serious responses....


anyway, usually

EQ - to cut what isnt needed
Distortion 1
Maybe Chorus or Phaser depending on the sound
Distortion 2
EQ Again to tidy up
Compression

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Attila » Fri May 25, 2012 4:16 pm

Fauster wrote:
Attila wrote:For a really gritty saw I usually do

Synth-->Multiband comp-->Comp-->Multiband comp-->Saturation--->Multiband comp-->Comp--->Multiband comp-->Filter Delay--->Utility

And a lot of tinkering/subtle automation. The filter delay and utility only goes on if I want to widen the sound. I've kept this as a Live effect rack...throw 3 or 4 instances on and automate til my tits turn blue.

Whoa whoa whoa hold up. There is absolutely no reason to go comp -> comp -> comp. Especially two separate times in one chain. That's just silly.
Why's that? It makes sense to me to compress each band to taste, then the overall sound, then each band again. If I was just trying to do traditional loudening compression it wouldn't make sense, but when im really digging to bring out certain harmonics it helps. And of course there's a couple eqs in the there as well.

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by joegrizzly » Fri May 25, 2012 4:54 pm

not enough compression? im sure you can bounce and compress some more

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Dy-nasty » Fri May 25, 2012 6:08 pm

Climax wrote:I dont think those are serious responses....


anyway, usually

EQ - to cut what isnt needed
Distortion 1
Maybe Chorus or Phaser depending on the sound
Distortion 2
EQ Again to tidy up
Compression
Compression after EQ? Any reason?

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Killamike49 » Fri May 25, 2012 6:18 pm

To compress it. Duh.
OT, for brostep basses, Light compression-overdrive-distortion-anything to add flavor/movement-general compression-eq. I usually do this through some overly complex bussing though, haha.
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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Disco Nutter » Fri May 25, 2012 6:22 pm

You can look at EQ after/before compression as different instruments. Sometimes you don't want some frequencies to trigger the compressor, so you can EQ beforehand. Other times you'll want to clean up after compression, so you'll put an EQ after it.

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Sonika » Fri May 25, 2012 7:32 pm

depends what sound you're going for....but for a lot of my drums tracks for example I'll go


EQ--->reverb---->echo/delay(possibly)---->compression(possibly)----->EQ
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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by AxeD » Fri May 25, 2012 7:40 pm

If you know what every effect does, you'll know in what order to chain them to get the desired result imo.
Like de-essing is done by eqing the compressor's sidechain in, but that makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by Climax » Sat May 26, 2012 3:39 pm

Dy-nasty wrote:
Climax wrote:I dont think those are serious responses....


anyway, usually

EQ - to cut what isnt needed
Distortion 1
Maybe Chorus or Phaser depending on the sound
Distortion 2
EQ Again to tidy up
Compression
Compression after EQ? Any reason?
No specific reason you could probably swap them and not see much of a difference as long as there is another EQ at the end of the chain somewhere, and compressior is usually last


but anyway here is my latest bass patch + FX

Operator in 4 osc FM mode
Fabfilter saturn
Camelphat
TAL-Tube
EQ
SatuRator
Compressor
Utility set to 50% width

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by JTMMusicuk » Sat May 26, 2012 3:51 pm

I dont really want to subscribe myself to this thread but if anyone saw the mau5hax session, you would know that three compressors in a row can be very usefull

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by narcissus » Sat May 26, 2012 7:02 pm

Dy-nasty wrote:
narcissus wrote:my usual effect chain for basses is

synth -> distortion -> compression -> brickwall limiter -> distortion -> distortion -> reverb -> distortion -> delay -> distortion -> tube saturation -> brickwall limiter -> gate -> EQ -> distortion -> multiband compressor -> multiband compressor -> multiband compressor

gets that nice growling diarrhea wobble bass. make sure to set compressors to 1:1 ratio. this step is very important.
Im skeptical about this considering there is so much compression and limiting...in the limiting alone wouldnt that chain become distorted with over limiting or are you very light on the threshold?
nah m8, cuz when you reverb into distortion, then delay that into another distortion, it clears the whole thing up and adds loads of punch and clarity. but the real key is the tube saturation, just gets the amazing warm gritty feel to my skrillex growl screech wobble

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by AxeD » Sat May 26, 2012 7:09 pm

JTMMusicuk wrote:I dont really want to subscribe myself to this thread but if anyone saw the mau5hax session, you would know that three compressors in a row can be very usefull
Wait, they name something 'mau5hax' and then expect people to watch it?
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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by JTMMusicuk » Sat May 26, 2012 7:29 pm

It was deadmau5 with a few other big producers sitting making a tune on webcam, i think it was kill the noise (i might be wrong) who showed how 3 compressors off th trot can make a synth with mad LFOs on it make a really nice growl

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Re: Effects Chain Orders

Post by sunny_b_uk » Sat May 26, 2012 7:34 pm

JTMMusicuk wrote:It was deadmau5 with a few other big producers sitting making a tune on webcam, i think it was kill the noise (i might be wrong) who showed how 3 compressors off th trot can make a synth with mad LFOs on it make a really nice growl
the thing is that can be done even easier with just 1 distortion plugin.
i still think using 3 compressors in one chain is retarded. i dont care if mau5hax, deadmau5 or aliv3mau5 says its useful.

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