What are the benefits of Logic?

[Perej]

Hey guys.

It's my 21st in a couple of months and I'm thinking about getting a macbook pro. Obviously if I get one I'l be using Logic, but I'm not 100% set on buying one yet even though my current laptop is a piece of shit.

I read xlr8r, FACT and the like a fair bit and everyone's always harping on about Logic. I think about 70% of my favourite producers use it (don't start patronizing me with the standard 'it's not the daw it's the user broooo' bollocks please.) I'm clearly not going to buy it just because someone I like uses it, but clearly there must be a reason for the widespread use.

I just wondered really what the big deal is? To me it looks a little like Cubase except more user-friendly. Any other pro's?

Anyway, I'm not going to buy one unless it's really worth it, so please convince me. Safe!

[InternetSlaveMaster]

Well are you not content with what you use now? If not, I don't see a reason to switch.

Never used Logic but I don't see any real advantage to it, it just seems that that's what Apple computer users end up with because it's native to them & they get free Garageband anyways.. Just as many good things coming from Ableton or Cubase or FL though.

[press]

honestly imo they all work just about the same, if you go abelton, logic, cubase, reaper, fl, or reason your going to be capabale of making releaseable and quality music, the more important thing is to learn it and learn it well, read the manual, read up on synthises etc. ive found they all have a feature or two that is cool and unique but lacking in another but one is not actually any better than another as a whole. i have releases made in reason, cubase, reaper and logic, and i am now using logic mostly only becuase i bought a mac.

[didi]

don't start patronizing me with the standard 'it's not the daw it's the user broooo' bollocks please.

It's not bollocks, it's true.

Anyway, I'm not going to buy one unless it's really worth it, so please convince me. Safe!

Unless you're using Dr Drum, there's no reason that's gonna make it really worth it

All modern DAWs are very well equipped. If you've already got one, save your cash and learn how to use that one.

If your current production laptop is shit, you should probably spend money upgrading that though.

[Sonika]

I fucking love logic. It's true that DAWs essentially do the same thing (I've worked with digital performer, fruity loops, ableton and pro tools) but it's just little nuances and the entire layout/feel of the DAW. Logic's workflow is great for me, because everything is right there in one window, its MIDI and Audio capabilities are both great, and its stock plugins and synths are awesome.
No brainer for me

[wormcode]

Yeah it's popular, which means collaborating with people is easier. Logic along with Cubase are industry standard like Pro Tools, so you can be sure if you take your project to a studio, they can load it up. You also get some extremely nice effects and instruments built in. EXS24 is a very nice sampler. The interface is easy on the eyes, and looks good and pro without too much eyecandy. Helps keeps you focused. This is all the same stuff I would say if you asked about Cubase tbh (minus EXS24).

I don't even use Logic, though I used to sometimes back when it was still PC based. I've used new versions here and there since, it's come a long way.

[Fat Person Torturer]

I think logic has better built in effects than ableton and fl but ableton has midi effects which can make the actual writing process easier. its really up to you though I would give everything a try.

[mtl6]

as a native ableton user, i found logic way less intuitive when i attempted to switch over. i was a little confused about why i needed to route things to busses to sidechain something when in ableton all i had to do was drop a compressor on the track and select what the sidechain trigger was. and all the "tools" like the scissor tool etc. seemed unnecessary and primitive after working in ableton (which doesn't really require tools like that). i'm sure a native logic user doesn't feel hindered by these differences but it my opinion, ableton seemed a lot more intuitive and simple. but they are both great daws.

[skimpi]

I swear by logic cos thats what I used from the off so I would probably never wanna use summat else, but I wouldnt say its good enough to go buy a mac (and logic) for, I did buy a new mac and finally logic last year, but thats because I already use it and want to continue using it. Getting Logic isnt really gonna make your tunes that much better though, probably worse for a while, whilst you get used to it. As peole have said though, it does have quality stock effects and synths/samplers.

[Hero]

Im on logic 9 an like it alot, i use to use FL an workflow was nice with the patterns FL could do but after getting use to logic my workflow is just as fast. Really have been looking into abelton though as ive seen better/easier writing capabilities, lots of my friends use abeltron. I tend to think of logic as like a traditional recording studio in a digital format. An stock plugs are very very nice, except the EQ's tend to be a lil over powering for my liking an not very transparent.

[billybuxton]

When i first got Logic i hated it, but sit down with it for a week and i guarantee you will love it.

The best thing about Logic in my opinion is the mixer view.
You can see all of your channels at the same time and what effects are on each, which i don't think you can do in Ableton and Fruity (Correct me if I'm wrong).

[Perfecture]

Logic is nice because it's layout is so so simple and you can navigate like lightning as everything is so well placed and set out. I LOVE IT

[outbound]

I have to admit when I first got into it I could not operate it to save my life, everything took me ages (could be due to the fact that I wasn't used to macs either )

After a while though it really is a quick DAW to use. Plugins sound great, some of the synth's / samplers are quite useable too (EXS24 I'm looking at you) Still a bit buggy in some bits but I'm sure they'll get there eventually.

Roll on 10 I say

[dublerium]

Don't think asking other people is the best way to find out what your asking. The daw you choose to make music is the space between you and music you want to make and your going to want to make sure that your comfortable with it; having someone else say it's incredible is useless info to you if you learn how to use it and just find it doesn't quite work well with how your brain works.

My advice would be to watch some tutorials on it, see it in action and see how the way it works sits with the way you think. You might see some things that you think you'd like to have or the way it functions just feels more natural to you. So give it a look for yourself because it's you who is going to be using it and if it doesn't feel right for you then a few comments on a forum aren't going to benefit that.

There's no doubt that Logic is a great piece of software, it's widely appreciated and offers a lot to those willing to learn how to use it effectively, you might be one of those people but you've got to find that out for yourself.

It's important to pick the right tools for the job; ones that work for you personally.

[paosciante]

I have been using for 4 years now. I tried ableton (although this was 4 years ago) and I did not like it, less intuitive and seemed less professional (which is absolutely stupid, but that was the first feeling I got with it and its difficult to change first opinions). I love it. I use it mainly with hardware synths so I do get into its midi capabilities (in order to send CC messages to my machines) and in that region is a winner for me. My friend knows ableton as the palm of his hand, but this is better if you are just using VSTs and software.
Apart from that, having Logic as native in a Mac makes things a bit safer in my opinion. At least thats how I feel...

So basically... as from what I have experienced: Logic works MUCH better in a hybrid environment in comparison with Ableton and protools (which I have tried less than Ableton, but another friend has recently switched to Logic as PT midi options are quite limited)
For me, the main downside with Logic is all the sounds/samples/basically .aiffs files management, it took quite a while to really understand where everything was going, how I could perfeclty manggle sounds in a non-destructive way, etc etc

[ketamine]

Back in my D&B days (c. 2007) I was a die hard FL Studio head, then met Dieselboy in DC, said he said he used Logic. I ran out & bought it, and after a year long learning curve, never looked back. Honestly my production quality went through the roof. As far as I'm concerned its more a professional / "Industry" DAW like Pro Tools. You can do some serious engineering in Logic & the only limits are your own abilities.

[nowaysj]

People in the "real" "industry" laugh at logic. Considered "prosumer".

[press]

People in the "real" "industry" laugh at logic. Considered "prosumer".

What? Pro Tools guys? I guess i could see that if your big into recording bands and shit, but i dunno for what we are doing, i dont know what another program would be better at that would put it so far ahead of logic.

[skimpi]

People in the "real" "industry" laugh at logic. Considered "prosumer".

When I bought Logic though, on the back of the box all of the points it covers does make it seem a bit toyish, and aimed at beginners

[Sharmaji]

People in the "real" "industry" laugh at logic. Considered "prosumer".

sorry bro but i'm calling bullshit on that. probably half to 2/3rds of all the commercials you hear are done in logic these days, and that #'s growing as people abandon protools.

it's less so in the music world, as most projects make their way to protools at some point regardless of where they start, but TONS of folks write in logic, everything from film scores to pop tracks to commerical music and everything in between. PT is for engineers, logic is for writers-- that's been the breakdown, and things are moving to logic more and more.

logic is far more stable and efficient than protools-- also about 1/10th the cost of going TDM. it's not as creativity-inducing as ableton when it comes to weird routing, fx, etc, but it's an absolute breeze for standard songwriting. it's also REALLY efficient on a mac compared to pretty much any other DAW i've used. Ableton comes close-- but man, it does not like to drag audio.