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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by ehbes » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:18 am

Grimenoceros wrote:I'll tell you how to make that sound as soon as you tell us how to get that many plays/followers on your tracks :O (kidding about the sound, I have no idea lol, but seriously, how? I could really use that sort of promotion...)
cloud killers mostly likely...most people here don't approve of it though
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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by PatrickReza » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:59 am

Grimenoceros wrote:I'll tell you how to make that sound as soon as you tell us how to get that many plays/followers on your tracks :O (kidding about the sound, I have no idea lol, but seriously, how? I could really use that sort of promotion...)
i just have a really nice awesome amazing fanbase :D http://facebook.com/patrickrezamusic who spread my shit like wildfire :D

im also backed by ellie goulding, bassnectar, adventure club dubstep, and other artists among the rest.

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by PatrickReza » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:03 am

ehbrums1 wrote:
Grimenoceros wrote:I'll tell you how to make that sound as soon as you tell us how to get that many plays/followers on your tracks :O (kidding about the sound, I have no idea lol, but seriously, how? I could really use that sort of promotion...)
cloud killers mostly likely...most people here don't approve of it though
hahah i tried cloudkillers for about a week but honestly it's a waste of time and effort i commented like maybe 35 tracks and was sick of it. I like to grow organically and know exactly how many true fans I really have. I also get posted by tons of blogs so that helps ---->google "PatrickReza Dubstep" and you'll see what im talking about. i will never buy facebook fans, or youtube views or soundcloud plays i want to always know EXACTLY who my fans are. :D just have a really awesome fanbase ---> facebook.com/patrickrezamusic

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by hutyluty » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:46 pm

PatrickReza wrote:
Grimenoceros wrote:I'll tell you how to make that sound as soon as you tell us how to get that many plays/followers on your tracks :O (kidding about the sound, I have no idea lol, but seriously, how? I could really use that sort of promotion...)
i just have a really nice awesome amazing fanbase :D http://facebook.com/patrickrezamusic who spread my shit like wildfire :D

im also backed by ellie goulding, bassnectar, adventure club dubstep, and other artists among the rest.
and to think i used to fancy ellie goulding
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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by MentalJunk » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:05 pm

Basically, the trick is into the delay, the massive patch is pretty much covered by the sound of the delay (about 70% dry wet in the delay).
I made a patch in massive, I don't think the oscillators I chose matter much, as I'm not an expert for Massive oscillators (I used a Groan IV in bend + that give mid bass to the sound, a melofant in bend - for mid highs and a roughmath III with formant type waveform to add a nice high end, and phase at -12 in the mod osc applying to the groan IV). For the wobbling part I used a daft filter with little resonance controlled by a LFO. Then I used Classic Tube (30%,30%), a Dim Expander (30%,0%), EQ to boost a little the high shelf. I feedbacked the sound a little to add fullness, and a sine shaper with full drive, little drywet.
I think that's all into massive, then I added a delay in ableton, left and right side are linked, feedback around 60%, drywet around 70%, and modulate the time to add movement: in the first sound, it's going from 1ms to 2ms, it' might not be the best one so you have to try severeal to find one modulation that pleases you
Finally, basic high pass going downward at the beginning of the first sound, pitch bend downard too, then I have cut every frequency under 140 Hz, and added a nice sine/square sub to have a clearer sound (it's having the same pitch bend downward at the beginning of the first note, to give it a nice pumping feel).
But that's what I have done, it's just me experiencing, and it's not meant to be a perfect way of how to do the zeds dead synth, I don't feel like I'm mastering everything I used in that sound, so follow it as an example and make it your own with your personal tastes of making a patch ! :)
Hope I was clear enough to be understood, english isn't my mother language at all

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by Filthzilla » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:12 pm

Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by Climax » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:56 pm

Its mostly in the delay, turn off Sync and set your L/R delay times to like 5-20ms (offset from each other) and crank your dry/wet and feedback to well over 50%

im not at my workstation so I cant give a wavetable reccomendation but you could probably use just about anything

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by Attila » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:16 pm

Filthzilla wrote:Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.
Boohoo, cause remixes write themselves right?

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by cmgoodman1226 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:28 pm

Filthzilla wrote:I was going to help you, but then I realized that I couldn't get the sound, so I made up an excuse to validate me not trying.
Fixed.

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by PatrickReza » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:28 pm

Filthzilla wrote:Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.
hahahah whats wrong with remixes? i think everyone should start out remixing. they really help you learn how to find melodies and learn how to work with different parts of songs, vocals, organic instruments, etc and now that i'm developed enough in production i have a full length original album, but remixes really did help me get where i am today technically.

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by Coolschmid » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:28 pm

Attila wrote:
Filthzilla wrote:Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.
Boohoo, cause remixes write themselves right?
Im pretty much remix means the song is already written but you remix it.

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by PatrickReza » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:31 pm

Filthzilla wrote:Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.
just checked your soundcloud. you did a somebody that i used to know remix? seriously? and YOU are calling ME a WHORE? that is by far the WHORIEST song to remix EVER.

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by Climax » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:40 pm

PatrickReza wrote:
Filthzilla wrote:Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.
just checked your soundcloud. you did a somebody that i used to know remix? seriously? and YOU are calling ME a WHORE? that is by far the WHORIEST song to remix EVER.

lol

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by PatrickReza » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:46 pm

hahah by the way can we get back on topic? i really do wanna get to the bottom of this synth. im messing around now. if i get anything close ill post it :D

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by Attila » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:50 pm

I've been at it in FM8 for a while so far, can only get the percussiveness and pitch bend right, having trouble getting it that fat.

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by PatrickReza » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:41 pm

Attila wrote:I've been at it in FM8 for a while so far, can only get the percussiveness and pitch bend right, having trouble getting it that fat.
post a sample! :D

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by hutyluty » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:59 pm

Can i get ellue goldings number please
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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by Grimenoceros » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:49 am

PatrickReza wrote:
Filthzilla wrote:Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.
hahahah whats wrong with remixes? i think everyone should start out remixing. they really help you learn how to find melodies and learn how to work with different parts of songs, vocals, organic instruments, etc and now that i'm developed enough in production i have a full length original album, but remixes really did help me get where i am today technically.
Two things, nice job for handling that well, most people on this board devolve into stubborn children and hurl insults when they get trolled so kudos. Second, I actually agree a whole lot with that, I never stopped to think about it like that but doing remixes for the first year or so of producing absolutely helped me get chops in in terms of writing progressions, parts etc., I'm sure this goes for the majority of new electronic producers.

Sorry for going off topic again, I really do wish I had an idea for you but metallic sound design like that is not my specialty.
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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by PatrickReza » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:56 am

Grimenoceros wrote:
PatrickReza wrote:
Filthzilla wrote:Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.
hahahah whats wrong with remixes? i think everyone should start out remixing. they really help you learn how to find melodies and learn how to work with different parts of songs, vocals, organic instruments, etc and now that i'm developed enough in production i have a full length original album, but remixes really did help me get where i am today technically.
Two things, nice job for handling that well, most people on this board devolve into stubborn children and hurl insults when they get trolled so kudos. Second, I actually agree a whole lot with that, I never stopped to think about it like that but doing remixes for the first year or so of producing absolutely helped me get chops in in terms of writing progressions, parts etc., I'm sure this goes for the majority of new electronic producers.

Sorry for going off topic again, I really do wish I had an idea for you but metallic sound design like that is not my specialty.
haha yeah i dont take anything too personally on forums just because i feel that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and while some are just looking to troll on other people, i'm happy where i stand with my music production and in the end thats all you can ask for. :) i look at DSF as a literal "forum" to bounce ideas off one another and keep all of us growing and evolving. About the remixes, it's definitely proven to be an effective method. I mean look at pretty much any famous EDM artist. Dare i say his name, but even skrillex started off making remixes. :) Cheers! <---(I'm not from Britain but I love that word. :) haha

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Re: Synth Help! Zeds Dead

Post by MKRUGGER » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:57 am

PatrickReza wrote:
Grimenoceros wrote:
PatrickReza wrote:
Filthzilla wrote:Haha I was gunna help then I realised you're a remix whore.
hahahah whats wrong with remixes? i think everyone should start out remixing. they really help you learn how to find melodies and learn how to work with different parts of songs, vocals, organic instruments, etc and now that i'm developed enough in production i have a full length original album, but remixes really did help me get where i am today technically.
Two things, nice job for handling that well, most people on this board devolve into stubborn children and hurl insults when they get trolled so kudos. Second, I actually agree a whole lot with that, I never stopped to think about it like that but doing remixes for the first year or so of producing absolutely helped me get chops in in terms of writing progressions, parts etc., I'm sure this goes for the majority of new electronic producers.

Sorry for going off topic again, I really do wish I had an idea for you but metallic sound design like that is not my specialty.
haha yeah i dont take anything too personally on forums just because i feel that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and while some are just looking to troll on other people, i'm happy where i stand with my music production and in the end thats all you can ask for. :) i look at DSF as a literal "forum" to bounce ideas off one another and keep all of us growing and evolving. About the remixes, it's definitely proven to be an effective method. I mean look at pretty much any famous EDM artist. Dare i say his name, but even skrillex started off making remixes. :) Cheers! <---(I'm not from Britain but I love that word. :) haha

I don't have much to offer on that sound..
But I'm digging your remixes! Any tips on remixing songs you'd pass over? I've never attempted it really.. Only done some original stuff.. I'd appreciate it ;D'

Sia - Breathe Me remix is awesome. Cheers! (I'm from America, and I love saying that shit as well, lol )'

Loving the High for This one the most though! Has a nice Pop sound at the beginning, haha.
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