Back to the old tune

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:50 pm

Been attempting to remake old tunes that were great ideas musically but poor on the technical production front.

Thought it would be simple to just rework them knowing what I know now.
However; proving to be an arduous task, somewhat counter productive.

New tunes from scratch are sounding tight production wise and are pretty much making themsleves. Much rejoycing.

Also making New beats with the elements of old tunes. With exciting results.

Thoughts? Do people still have hope for their old ideas? Or do you keep moving forward ?

spencertron · Post by **spencertron** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:53 pm

Whineo wrote:Been attempting to remake old tunes that were great ideas musically but poor on the technical production front.

Thought it would be simple to just rework them knowing what I know now.
However; proving to be an arduous task, somewhat counter productive.

New tunes from scratch are sounding tight production wise and are pretty much making themsleves. Much rejoycing.

Also making New beats with the elements of old tunes. With exciting results.

Thoughts? Do people still have hope for their old ideas? Or do you keep moving forward ?

overkill on the ears initially.

times a good healer. better than we appreciate i reckon. i'll say that much. me and fellow musicians (in bands etc) have had this happen to us alot with old idea's/recordings.

__________ · Post by **__________** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:00 pm

yep i literally about two minutes ago rediscovered a beat i forgot that i made, working on it now to get it sounding peachy. thinking about putting it on the other side of a dubplate i wanna get cut. time is a good healer, when you spend hours and hours continuously on the same beat you lose perspective. give it a few months and it suprises you

djake · Post by **djake** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:01 pm

im not a big fan of going back, once a tune is done in my mind its done i will just stop and move on.

no point trying to get the same vibe going agian, when there is another one just round the corner.

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:05 pm

Whineo wrote:Also making New beats with the elements of old tunes. With exciting results.

Thoughts? Do people still have hope for their old ideas? Or do you keep moving forward ?

I've just got onto something pretty good by writing an intro for one thing, realizing it didn't really fit with the rest of the tune, deciding that I probably like it more than the rest of the tune and then using it as the basis for something entirely different.

Whether I'll finish it is another matter....

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:19 pm

when you spend hours and hours continuously on the same beat you lose perspective. give it a few months and it suprises you

Sorry didnt explain properly , The old tunes im refering to were pretty much finished in a few sittings - just trying to touch them up make em fatter etc...

no point trying to get the same vibe going agian

This is the question i was aiming 4 - do people find it easy to get the vibe gong again on a tune. Or do you find it pointless

When I go back to old tunes they are a mess in their arrangement etc..
find myself taking them apart and putting back together .. by which point the vibe of the initial sitting is gone.

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:24 pm

Have not come back to any old Toons.
As my skillz and synthisis knowlege are lack...

Altho, i did one a few days ago. My bru likes flowin over.
Said he would remix it for me thru some srs biznezz.

Pretty pumped on that.
He can get it propa fo sho.

__________ · Post by **__________** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:38 pm

Whineo wrote:
when you spend hours and hours continuously on the same beat you lose perspective. give it a few months and it suprises you

Sorry didnt explain properly , The old tunes im refering to were pretty much finished in a few sittings - just trying to touch them up make em fatter etc...

yea thats what i'm saying too, i'm touching up an old beat right now.
once i remember i made it, and decipher which samplers are going to which fx channel, i'm back in the vibe.

normally, its the way i lay out my tunes that makes it difficult, not trying to get back into the vibe again. i never name any channels or samplers in fl, so i've got literally 50 up to hundreds of samplers and shit with names like FD021 and SYNFX1 going to 'channel 28' on the mixer. i really need to start organising my productions better so i don't get lost in the music so much.

i'd rather go back and improve a tune than have it haunt me ''that noise needs to be turned down just a liiiiiitle bit''

wallace · Post by **wallace** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:47 pm

Fresh back from a party.
My bru Layed down track, crashed out.

Bumped on the Ipod cruisin around the next day sounded sikk.
Went back to touch it up.
File corrupt toon lost.
Just got Logic, didnt know you had to save in a differnt format.
Or have a chance of corruption.

The Vibe nor the Toon have been recreated...

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:01 am

I have remade a couple of tunes, firstly I change the drums if they need it was usually turns into a rework of the pattens, then I got all OCD and change everything only keeping chords or something but changing all the sounds and it ends up being a totally different vibe.

Although it usually turns out better than it was.

noodle · Post by **noodle** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:40 pm

I find it really difficult not to pack it in and leave it.
But it's really rewarding when I manage to add a few nice elements to a tune that would have been lacking otherwise.

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:11 pm

Wallace wrote: File corrupt toon lost.

go on the autosave folder inside the logic project folder, there should be an older version of the track u were working on in there so u probably wont have lost everything

and yeah, i frequently resurrect old tracks from the dead, even from 4 or 5 years back. sometimes they were tracks i'd "finished" (badly), but more often they just loops or ideas n stuff.

often cos theres a sample or a sound i like that i never did justice to, or the hook kills but the beats are weak, or whatever. usually ditch 90 percent of what was there in the original by the time track is finished (for a 2nd time), but try n keep the elements that worked.

basically, a track aint finished for me until its been released. only then is it off limits for necromancy

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:30 pm

Battle Gong wrote: often cos theres a sample or a sound i like that i never did justice to, or the hook kills but the beats are weak, or whatever. usually ditch 90 percent of what was there in the original by the time track is finished (for a 2nd time), but try n keep the elements that worked.

word.

cursedc · Post by **cursedc** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:38 pm

I like to remix my old stuff or try to use different elements in it. Sometimes remastering the works you've done isn't a bad thing either. With fresh ears and Ideas.

Fuck, I've seen a lot of artists put out old "re-mastered" albums of late and that fucking nostalgia keeps reaping in the sales.

Aufnahmewindwuschel · Post by **Aufnahmewindwuschel** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:21 pm

sorry for reviving this thread and sorry spencertron for embezzling your name
but i still find it a interesting thema what to do with your old tunes i sometimes want to delete them but i just cant do it maybe put them on a extern harddrive and let them rest in piece i dont know?

Aufnahmewindwuschel · Post by **Aufnahmewindwuschel** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:24 pm

*peace *

weedlefruit · Post by **weedlefruit** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:37 pm

I need to do this.

I'm a proper hobby producer, I go through phases of just making synth lines etc so couldn't call myself a producer my any degree of exaggeration, but I have a few tunes from years ago that I really want to bring forward. What I know now compared to when I did those tunes would really improve them I think!

Anyone have any old tunes/revamped version comparisons they have done that wouldn't mind sharing? Would be quite interesting to see how the new version of an older tune compared

Aufnahmewindwuschel · Post by **Aufnahmewindwuschel** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:43 pm

weedlefruit wrote:I need to do this.

I'm a proper hobby producer, I go through phases of just making synth lines etc so couldn't call myself a producer my any degree of exaggeration, but I have a few tunes from years ago that I really want to bring forward. What I know now compared to when I did those tunes would really improve them I think!

Anyone have any old tunes/revamped version comparisons they have done that wouldn't mind sharing? Would be quite interesting to see how the new version of an older tune compared

i just started doing this again and you should def give it a go keep your original fiel and make a copy and start working on it sometimes i even get back to teh moment i started the orginal tune, crazy feeling

weedlefruit · Post by **weedlefruit** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:13 pm

This thread gave me that little push to actually get off my ass and try and revive something I had done previously so here it is.

Didn't go at it like a serious thing, nothing too exiting, but just used some of the motifs and ideas already in the project

Soundcloud

Aufnahmewindwuschel · Post by **Aufnahmewindwuschel** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:36 pm

weedlefruit wrote:This thread gave me that little push to actually get off my ass and try and revive something I had done previously so here it is.

Didn't go at it like a serious thing, nothing too exiting, but just used some of the motifs and ideas already in the project

http://soundcloud.com/weddle/unfinished ... n-progress

that tune is sick really different style good decision to go back

ps.: i love old boy too haha not as much as sympathy for mr vengeance though

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