Mala working on Cuban album...

[rorz9992]

I kind of feel like there's actually plenty of great dubstep being produced, it's just that it's all being over-shadowed by the exorbitant amount of same-samey dungeon shit that's coming out.

I agree with CB, everyone talking about the 'death of dubstep', that shit will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if everyone has that attitude.
There is still loads of great stuff being released and new producers coming through, despite lots of producers defecting to other sounds.
I can't see 140 dying out any time soon.

This will be a landmark album I'm sure and hopefully it will inspire a new wave of producers.

[Geey]

I kind of feel like there's actually plenty of great dubstep being produced, it's just that it's all being over-shadowed by the exorbitant amount of same-samey dungeon shit that's coming out.

I agree with CB, everyone talking about the 'death of dubstep', that shit will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if everyone has that attitude.
There is still loads of great stuff being released and new producers coming through, despite lots of producers defecting to other sounds.
I can't see 140 dying out any time soon.

This will be a landmark album I'm sure and hopefully it will inspire a new wave of producers.

Apart from the gorgon sound release, skream phatty drummer and pangaea inna daze I'm struggling to remember any fresh 140 tunes off the top of my head that habe come out of late, other than mala's releases.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm personally not feeling alot of the tracks I'm hearing, I strive for energy in the music, and this dungeon sound doesnt do that for me!

[baddis98]

there is so much more than bro and dungeon. latter term is also often mis-used by many people. not everything deep/minimal is dungeon. there's a lot of stuff that got depth and that classic medi vibe at the same time. artists like vivek, goth-trad, quest, author, tmsv, cyrus,...just to name a few. people who limit the genre to bro and dungeon are simply not looking hard enough for fresh tunes or looking in the wrong places.

[Geey]

there is so much more than bro and dungeon. latter term is also often mis-used by many people. not everything deep/minimal is dungeon. there's a lot of stuff that got depth and that classic medi vibe at the same time. artists like vivek, goth-trad, quest, author, tmsv, cyrus,...just to name a few. people who limit the genre to bro and dungeon are simply not looking hard enough for fresh tunes or looking in the wrong places.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, I'm Not saying everything is dungeon or bro.. What I'm Saying is, everything that's getting released is all samey, most of the new deep medi stuff doesn't do it for me, some
Goth trad bits and the new jack sparrow bits are alright.. But if your tellin me they have the same sort of magic as the earlier dubstep tracks like pinchs war dub or loefahs mud your lying.
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[baddis98]

there is so much more than bro and dungeon. latter term is also often mis-used by many people. not everything deep/minimal is dungeon. there's a lot of stuff that got depth and that classic medi vibe at the same time. artists like vivek, goth-trad, quest, author, tmsv, cyrus,...just to name a few. people who limit the genre to bro and dungeon are simply not looking hard enough for fresh tunes or looking in the wrong places.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, I'm Not saying everything is dungeon or bro.. What I'm Saying is, everything that's getting released is all samey, most of the new deep medi stuff doesn't do it for me, some
Goth trad bits and the new jack sparrow bits are alright.. But if your tellin me they have the same sort of magic as the earlier dubstep tracks like pinchs war dub or loefahs mud your lying.
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i think there are still new tunes coming out, that got that sort of magic, but after all that depends on your personal view. the tunes you mentioned are anthems for good reasons. but they also live from their reputation and that mystic/nostalgic status that people attach to them. if mud was released now it wouldn't have the same impact as it had back then. that's why i think it's not really fair to compare 2012 tunes to 2006 tunes. you simply can create a genre's history only once and that goes for every genre. usually classics/anthems are produced at the early stages. i listen to a lot of reggae and dancehall and there's still great stuff coming, but most of that doesn't have the potential to become future classics, simply because it's all been done before. so the question is if you're looking for quality tunes or for that magic moment. if it's the latter i'm afraid that already happened years ago.

[Devry_Kaneda]

Too much great music coming out of everywhere. I get overwhelmed just trying to listen to a portion of it. Quit crying and find it.

[jack sparrow1]

Dubstep has a lot of legs on it yet and many direction to take.

I love how producers are on a personal journey with music, travelling the world and bringing new influences into the fold.

Inspiration can come from a variety of sources, and is essential for us to grow as musicians and music appreciators.

[bobsabarker]

I heard a really cinematic version of Changes played out the other night. It was beautiful. I checked clips on YouTube and it didn't seem to be the James Blake version....

[Geey]

No it's not the nostalgia.. I'd say asbo's dog money tune is a better tune than the tunes I mentioned and that got a release in 2010... I'm Not saying dubstep is dead but the mala new album will hopefully breath some
Needed fresh air into a scene that I find is becoming stale.
I listen to alot of deep house, tech house and minimal tech, and those scenes are going from strength to strength and the tunes are always evolving, and I'd say the tunes in deep house now are better than ten years ago, so personally I don't think nostalgia always makes a tune seem better than a newer one

[Cornbreadddd]

there is so much more than bro and dungeon. latter term is also often mis-used by many people. not everything deep/minimal is dungeon. there's a lot of stuff that got depth and that classic medi vibe at the same time. artists like vivek, goth-trad, quest, author, tmsv, cyrus,...just to name a few. people who limit the genre to bro and dungeon are simply not looking hard enough for fresh tunes or looking in the wrong places.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, I'm Not saying everything is dungeon or bro.. What I'm Saying is, everything that's getting released is all samey, most of the new deep medi stuff doesn't do it for me, some
Goth trad bits and the new jack sparrow bits are alright.. But if your tellin me they have the same sort of magic as the earlier dubstep tracks like pinchs war dub or loefahs mud your lying.
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i think there are still new tunes coming out, that got that sort of magic, but after all that depends on your personal view. the tunes you mentioned are anthems for good reasons. but they also live from their reputation and that mystic/nostalgic status that people attach to them. if mud was released now it wouldn't have the same impact as it had back then. that's why i think it's not really fair to compare 2012 tunes to 2006 tunes. you simply can create a genre's history only once and that goes for every genre. usually classics/anthems are produced at the early stages. i listen to a lot of reggae and dancehall and there's still great stuff coming, but most of that doesn't have the potential to become future classics, simply because it's all been done before. so the question is if you're looking for quality tunes or for that magic moment. if it's the latter i'm afraid that already happened years ago.

Very well said. I feel like this might be part of the reason the majority of Loefah tracks don't do anything for me. The feeling of nostalgia attached to dubstep classics seems to add so much to the tune, and I can't relate to the earlier tracks because I wasn't into the genre back then but I can definitely understand a similar sort of feeling when I first heard the first couple of tunes that made me fall in love with the genre off of City Limits Vol. 1. To me those tracks were my Mud and Ancient Memories.

I have a feeling this Cuban album, Quest's album, and Heny G's album will all bring a new revitalizing spirit to the genre.

[sixs]

man heny g's lp better have delayed style on it

[leyenda]

I feel like the future of dubstep hangs on this release, I'm
Not feeling this juke and dungeon crap really and I feel proper dubstep has lost all it's producers to either juke, dungeon or commercial duties. Mala and coki are the last surviving two and coki has gone abit stale if you ask me!
I love artists like Pangaea and Pearson sound but pangaea doesn't release enough and Pearson is hit and miss and hessle has gone abit weird with the last few releases.
So in my mind we need mala to come back and rescue 140 so I can stop living in the past and start listening to dubstep again.. I mean is there even proper dubstep nights anymore since dmz stopped doing parties??

Coki off the boil? What is Marduk then? There's other good recent tunes by him but that is up there with his very best. Also, there is a massive 'proper dubstep night' happening literally right now today called System which is pretty much the heir to DMZ nights as it is hosted by Mala and VIVEK (though Mala is missing this one). It happens every couple of months.

[Geey]

I don't understand why people are trying to question what are just personal opinions, certain peoples treasure is other peoples trash, everyone has different tastes in music. Ive followed dubstep since 2 step garage days, and I'm
Just saying that I've grown tired of it, I like the London sound and dubstep has swayed from that majorly! My musical tastes are different from the guy who likes the new coki bits! Personally it's not doing it for me, I've heard those sort of wobbly basslines a thousand times and I've grown tired of them, if your newish to dubstep then it might be different! I respect whatever music people are into whether it's kode9 or skrillex, as I don't know what part of the musical journey they are at right now.
One of the originators of dubstep said 140 is dead and I bet you respected his opinion, I'm
All I'm saying is it needs a new direction for inspiration and a couple of people are disrespecting my personal opinion!
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[leyenda]

I don't understand why people are trying to question what are just personal opinions, certain peoples treasure is other peoples trash, everyone has different tastes in music. Ive followed dubstep since 2 step garage days, and I'm
Just saying that I've grown tired of it, I like the London sound and dubstep has swayed from that majorly! My musical tastes are different from the guy who likes the new coki bits! Personally it's not doing it for me, I've heard those sort of wobbly basslines a thousand times and I've grown tired of them, if your newish to dubstep then it might be different! I respect whatever music people are into whether it's kode9 or skrillex, as I don't know what part of the musical journey they are at right now.
One of the originators of dubstep said 140 is dead and I bet you respected his opinion, I'm
All I'm saying is it needs a new direction for inspiration and a couple of people are disrespecting my personal opinion!
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You don't have to be newish to dubstep to like newer Coki just like you don't have to be newish to dubstep to like newer Mala. I've been into dubstep more or less since the tailend of 'the golden era' and I like them. Other than that point I mentioned System which is quite clearly a dubstep night in the same vein as DMZ as you may not have heard of it if you were claiming there are no proper dubstep nights anymore...

[Geey]

system is a dubstep night yes, I've been to it and I wouldn't say its pushing the scene along. When I went they played Dnb for a while and played classics quite alot of the night. Dont get me wrong I love listening to classics on a good system but why are they playing classics if the scene is flowing with great music?

Back to the point, in my personal opinion dubstep needs malas album to give it a kick up the arse it needs.

[slanguage]

Back to the point, in my personal opinion dubstep needs malas album to give it a kick up the arse it needs.

i'll agree with this...


tbh, the scene is very stale. There aren't many great tunes coming out. However, I will say that Kahn's Dread, way mi defend and some other tunes that had a dark tantrums/vivek vibe to them sounded as good as anything that has come out when they were played last night

[Today]

just felt like saying a thing:

a lot of dungeon tunes are great and have super weighty bass with twisted dnb reeses and incredible drums... but for the type of dubstep fans like me who got into it from the direction of dub and not dnb, a whole set of it is laughably pointless. It literally sounds like one immensely long tune. I'd really enjoy if some DJ's felt like doing mixes that spanned across some of the various flavors of 140.. dubby, techy, grime, minimal, dungeon, afro-cuban, 2step, breaks even some brostep if need be. I would like being introduced to the dungeon sound in the middle of a set, feel like i've entered a very dark place, but eventually be mixed out of and not fucking relentless cycles of Ominous Atmosphere -> Twisted Dungeon drop repeat ad nauseum.
that kind of mix would be more fun to listen to. I would download tons of them. wouldn't expect every DJ to buy or play records from every single style, but if some of you would drop dungeon tracks in a normal set of dubstep, i'd enjoy the dungeon style a lot more than i do. cuz when i hear a mix of it i fucking hate it

[jsml]

Why are we even talking about "boring dungeon" (still a stupid name btw) and "dubstep is dead" in a thread about the new Mala album!? A Cuba-inspired Mala Album!!!

Be excited! How can dubstep be dead when Mala is releasing cuban flavoured beats?

[DiegoSapiens]

just felt like saying a thing:

a lot of dungeon tunes are great and have super weighty bass with twisted dnb reeses and incredible drums... but for the type of dubstep fans like me who got into it from the direction of dub and not dnb, a whole set of it is laughably pointless. It literally sounds like one immensely long tune. I'd really enjoy if some DJ's felt like doing mixes that spanned across some of the various flavors of 140.. dubby, techy, grime, minimal, dungeon, afro-cuban, 2step, breaks even some brostep if need be. I would like being introduced to the dungeon sound in the middle of a set, feel like i've entered a very dark place, but eventually be mixed out of and not fucking relentless cycles of Ominous Atmosphere -> Twisted Dungeon drop repeat ad nauseum.
that kind of mix would be more fun to listen to. I would download tons of them. wouldn't expect every DJ to buy or play records from every single style, but if some of you would drop dungeon tracks in a normal set of dubstep, i'd enjoy the dungeon style a lot more than i do. cuz when i hear a mix of it i fucking hate it

litsen to kahn´s sets, they have lot of different styles innit http://www.factmag.com/2011/11/18/fact-mix-301-kahn/

[Geey]

Why are we even talking about "boring dungeon" (still a stupid name btw) and "dubstep is dead" in a thread about the new Mala album!? A Cuba-inspired Mala Album!!!

Be excited! How can dubstep be dead when Mala is releasing cuban flavoured beats?

Ermmm no one said dubstep is dead.. And my whole point was this album can hopefully give other producers inspiration like mala has no doubt done to 100s of other producers in the past with his tunes