Deadmau5 proves he is a tnuc, AGAIN.

[wormcode]

At least he's not putting on some front and pretending what he or skrillex does is anything special. Why do you think he wears his stupid mouse head, or they have ridiculous light shows and moving robots? Because they don't actually do anything, so they need something to distract the audience. Not anyone can beatmatch, and not anyone can program music/hardware/software, that's for sure haha. We've all seen horrible DJs, and people who make awful music. Besides, beatmatching is only half of it. It doesn't matter if you can match beats better than a computer if you have shit selection and can't work a crowd.

so thats my “live” show. and thats as “live” as i can comfortably get it

He admits he's pretty much afraid of actually doing it live. People do make live music, and it's definitely not easy regardless of the genre.

[fractal]

He needs to talk to Qbert

[phrex]

wrong.


thank you. next topic.

[noam]

Anyone can be a promoter. Anyone can be a DJ. Not everyone can be a musician.

wrong.

But like I said, the DJs that really do something truly remarkable are a rarity. Most DJs (including myself) just do their job. And some people will like the tunes they play or won't. But it's not some special magical skill only a few are blessed with. Even someone who isn't creative can do a proper DJ set.

so if anyone can be a dj why isn't everyone 'doing something remarkable' ??

you're applying different weights to production than to dj'ing

there's a million average or worse producers out there whose tracks are uninspiring, unimaginative, poorly constructed dross - but its music also. you dont have to be creative to sequence loops and program FX, but if you are a naturally gifted musician or are gifted and creative in your use of technology then you can stand out.

its the same, there's loads of shit promoters out there too who dont do their jobs properly and their nights flop.

edit: just seen Wormcode's reply, spot on basically

bottom line is, you need all the elements for the right end product, one is not worth more than the other, if you believe it is you're kidding yourself.

[Genevieve]

You're going in circles. When did I say you don't 'need' a DJ or promoter? Of course you do, just like you need a bouncer to keep trouble makers out. But it doesn't matter if that bouncer is Frank or Jim, or as much. But it matters if your performer is Hellfish or Dorian Concept.

Bottom line is. People were dancing comfortably for thousands of years before the first 2 records were beatmatched and they will for years after the last ones were.

If the question is of 'skill', then I think you and I just have different ideas of what constitutes respectable skill.

[noam]

You're going in circles. When did I say you don't 'need' a DJ or promoter? Of course you do, just like you need a bouncer to keep trouble makers out. But it doesn't matter if that bouncer is Frank or Jim, or as much. But it matters if your performer is Hellfish or Dorian Concept.

Bottom line is. People were dancing comfortably for thousands of years before the first 2 records were beatmatched and they will for years after the last ones were.

If the question is of 'skill', then I think you and I just have different ideas of what constitutes respectable skill.

how am i going in circles lol

all im saying is that dj's and promoters and producers and party goers are all just as integral to what makes it worth going to a night and what a good night is

placing more value on one of those criteria is redundant.

deadmau5 may aswell not even turn up, he could just have someone else wear the mask and ponce about on stage pretending to perform his live set

with respect to dj's i'd rather see a few people in one night spinning tunes or muckin about wiht live gear or whatever, because its part of it as a whole, and it IS a respectable skill to go into a club and make people dance with the tunes you're playing, or set an atmosphere, or close a party etc.

if you dont think that is a respectable skill i dont we just wont agree i suppose

[mks]

deadmau5 may aswell not even turn up, he could just have someone else wear the mask and ponce about on stage pretending to perform his live set

Noam, that is a brilliant idea. Stealing that one...

[wormcode]

deadmau5 may aswell not even turn up, he could just have someone else wear the mask and ponce about on stage pretending to perform his live set

I'm sure he's at LEAST been tempted to do this. Would not surprise me if it's happened lol.
MF DOOM does it. Maybe Zomby too haha.

[mks]

I need some coin. A couple of XXmau5 "concerts" should sort me out!

[deadly_habit]

you'd need to wear long sleeves or get some shitty tattoos though

[aspect-dubz]

It's sets like these that definitely require talent and technical skill. What Deadmau5 does is simple..

[deadly_habit]

as well
and i doubt i have to mention tobin to anyone who has caught him live

[pkay]

He's talking about live pa type sets and saying people up there with midi controllers are basically just djing and working one synth line

He's spot on... Anyone using ableton knows how this works and how you can tweak one of your maps and make it 'original' and it will automatically stay In time and keep you on key etc

What he's saying is stop bigging up these people. It's not like they're on an mpc punching out the beat and keying the synth in live like a band would be. It's automated tunes with masturbatory gloating on top of it

If you don't understand what he's saying youre either unfamiliar with ableton or giving yourself far too much credit for your live act

Also right about beatmatching. Especially in dubstep. Takes no talent to bestmatch a genre when 98% of the tunes are done at the same bpm. Back in the day when dnb tunes ranged from 160-180 you had to beatmatch.... Almost all tunes come out in dubstep at 140. Just match the two turntables up on pitch and hit cue on the 1/4 and go back to watching bangbros on your iPhone

He's a twat no doubt but he is 100% right in this article

[aspect-dubz]

Live P.A sets? I think anyone that goes up on a stage with a relatively large crowd is using a live P.A.

I actually don't really give a shit about what an artist is using to produce a set, it's more about music choice if anything.
Sure any random punter could set up an abelton live set, warp some tracks, set up some effects, a couple of three band EQ's and create a "proffesional set", mixing between tracks. All you need is one midi controller.

I don't think any punter could do whats been posted above. some of them are probably even using live.

[InternetSlaveMaster]

its no secret.  when it comes to “live” performance of EDM… that’s about the most it seems you can do anyway. It’s not about performance art, its not about talent either (really its not) In fact, let me do you and the rest of the EDM world button pushers who fuckin hate me for telling you how it is, a favor and let you all know how it is.

I think given about 1 hour of instruction, anyone with minimal knowledge of ableton and music tech in general could DO what im doing at a deadmau5 concert. Just like i think ANY DJ in the WORLD who can match a beat can do what “ANYONE else” (not going to mention any names) is doing on their EDM stages too.   have a look, then let me explain:]

...says the guy who got famous for wearing a fucking mouse helmet.

Like he's literally saying "Just because I don't use technology to it's fullest extent live, nobody else does!"

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Yeah guise he's just pressing a fuckin button and standing there like a moron! Anyone can do it!!!!!11one!! wat iz performance art?!?!!!1

[noam]

He's talking about live pa type sets and saying people up there with midi controllers are basically just djing and working one synth line

He's spot on... Anyone using ableton knows how this works and how you can tweak one of your maps and make it 'original' and it will automatically stay In time and keep you on key etc

What he's saying is stop bigging up these people. It's not like they're on an mpc punching out the beat and keying the synth in live like a band would be. It's automated tunes with masturbatory gloating on top of it

If you don't understand what he's saying youre either unfamiliar with ableton or giving yourself far too much credit for your live act

Also right about beatmatching. Especially in dubstep. Takes no talent to bestmatch a genre when 98% of the tunes are done at the same bpm. Back in the day when dnb tunes ranged from 160-180 you had to beatmatch.... Almost all tunes come out in dubstep at 140. Just match the two turntables up on pitch and hit cue on the 1/4 and go back to watching bangbros on your iPhone

He's a twat no doubt but he is 100% right in this article

yea you're right, specifically about 140 bpm dubstep, and to mention how much easier it is mixing this style with CDJ's, but most mixable music is different to that, not just dnb, but pretty much all other genre's if you're playing an interesting and diverse set then beatmatching is a skill and can be a difficult one at that

if it wasn't, if it was as redundant a skill as Deadmau5 makes it out to be, why would anyone ever need a computer to do it for them

[capo ultra]

He seems to miss the whole intention of djing. Surely he understands it as a way to broadcast new tunes and new sounds.

It seems you miss the whole intention of his blog post because that is exactly what he is saying.

[capo ultra]

Just like i think ANY DJ in the WORLD who can match a beat can do what “ANYONE else” (not going to mention any names) is doing on their EDM stages too.   have a look, then let me explain:]

Then how come I can't do what theo parrish does?

because you don't have a rotary mixer?

[collige]

Anyone can be a DJ, anyone can play guitar, and anyone can do an Ableton set. Not everyone can be good at these things.

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

LOL Why get angry? Most on here are straight up bedroom producers anyway - if a modern DJ is a petrol station your tunes can be the oil. After all the work that goes into tunes, you half hope for a DJ that will press play and let your track properly play. Getting confused and angry slows only yourself down. Read between the lines, take the compliment, don't ever be star struck, work fucking hard in your field, replace the waste, don't be a tnuc when you make it. xNWOx