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Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by bl0rg » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:36 am

I recently made a remix of gotye - somebody I used to know, and uploaded the song to soundcloud and youtube. After receiving a few thousand plays, the song just disappeared. We were featured in blogs, and the song was not available for download anywhere.

There are hundreds of remixes of this song on souncloud....

Anyone else have this problem? Is there anything I can do? :u:
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by mthrfnk » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:48 am

Contact SC Support, i've found their twitter support account to be particularly helpful in solving matters quickly. If your remix had sufficient popularity it may have warranted a removal due to copyright infringement unlike a lot of the other remixes of that track that go unnoticed.
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by wub » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:04 pm

If a label reports for copyright and creates enough of a stink about it, SC will remove the track as standard. Most artists/labels see 'bootlegs' as positive promotion, but some prefer to protect their interest, especially if the the artists/label themselves aren't fans of the remix.

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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by bl0rg » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:22 pm

I'm just so disappointed by the volume of remixes with more views than ours that dont get persecuted, especially without warning.

im gonna have to stop using soundcloud.
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by paradigm_x » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:50 pm

bl0rg wrote:im gonna have to stop using soundcloud.
Or stop doing unauthorised remixes and uploading them without permission?

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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by wub » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:58 pm

bl0rg wrote:im gonna have to stop using soundcloud.
It in their 'Terms Of Use' which at some point when setting up your account you will have clicked "Accept" on...

http://soundcloud.com/terms-of-use#content
any unauthorized use of copyright protected material within Your Content (including by way of reproduction, distribution, modification, adaptation, public display, public performance, preparation of derivative works, making available or otherwise communicating to the public via the Platform) may constitute an infringement of third party rights and is strictly prohibited. Any such infringements may result in termination of your access to the Platform as described in the Repeat Infringers section below, and may also result in civil litigation or criminal prosecution by or on behalf of the relevant rightsholder.

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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by bl0rg » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:00 pm

paradigm x wrote:
bl0rg wrote:im gonna have to stop using soundcloud.
Or stop doing unauthorised remixes and uploading them without permission?
do you think any of the remixes of this song had permission?
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by AxeD » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:38 pm

bl0rg wrote:
paradigm x wrote:
bl0rg wrote:im gonna have to stop using soundcloud.
Or stop doing unauthorised remixes and uploading them without permission?
do you think any of the remixes of this song had permission?
No but they picked yours because Gotye doesn't like your face.
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by wub » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:11 pm

AxeD wrote:
bl0rg wrote:
paradigm x wrote:
bl0rg wrote:im gonna have to stop using soundcloud.
Or stop doing unauthorised remixes and uploading them without permission?
do you think any of the remixes of this song had permission?
No but they picked yours because Gotye doesn't like your face.
Or your music. Could be a million reasons...you said you had a lot of blog views for it? Maybe someone who knew Gotye heard your song and sent them a text saying "just heard this remix of you, LOL" and they got pissy about it. Who knows?

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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by bl0rg » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:38 pm

well im not surprised if he heard it, we sent it to him before we made it public!

well we wont be doing this again...

we've got good industry contacts in toronto, ill just get legit stems from records for any remix we wanna do.
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by MassAphekt » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:45 pm

AxeD wrote:
bl0rg wrote:
paradigm x wrote:
bl0rg wrote:im gonna have to stop using soundcloud.
Or stop doing unauthorised remixes and uploading them without permission?
do you think any of the remixes of this song had permission?
No but they picked yours because Gotye doesn't like your face.
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by mthrfnk » Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:13 pm

Have you contacted SC support, as I suggested, for an official reason?
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by wormcode » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:14 pm

They will also remove DJ mixes due to infringement. They have a list of labels and publishers who do not want their music made available on Soundcloud in any form. Sometimes things only get removed if you have downloads enabled, but sometimes it does not matter (especially since someone can download it regardless).

No doubt they have already implemented or are planning to implement scanning software that scans uploaded material and automatically flags certain music for review/deletion like Youtube does.

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Post by Attila » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:16 am

I've had sc not allow me to upload a song because it detected a guitar part I sampled. Who cares...just make and upload more music. Its not like a gotye remix is what was going to catapult you to stardom. Contacting them won't really do much either

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Post by Mexztah » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:44 am

Hmm, Im sure Gotye did a remix comp for "Somebody that i used to know" So he (Or the label) made the stems freely available, I find it weird they would kick up a fuss if someone decided to then display their work. Then again, Im not well versed in how labels deal with stuff like that
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by Attila » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:27 pm

A lot of remix comps have stipulations on releasing your remixes outside of the contest.

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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by keithmac » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:30 pm

Yes the label released the stems and encouraged people to make and create their own mixes and give them away, play them on mix shows etc..it is a proven strategy one that Missy Elliot championed to cross over into dance going back before the EDM U.S. explosion, so fast forward, Gotye goes to Number 1 all around the world, their label Universal Music Group steps in and has soundcloud remove all remixes so they can squeeze every last penny out of iTunes sales, msg from soundcloud "By legal regulation we are obliged to act on content being reported as infringing others' copyright. We received the takedown request from Universal Music."

So they use everyone to make mixes and help promote the music in multiple formats and when the group makes it they come in and take down all the mixes that helped propel the song/band to the heights they achieved. Same thing happened with Martin Solveig "Hello", loads of soundcloud mixes, songs blows up worldwide, label comes in and removes all the mixes that help propel the song.

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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by AxeD » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:18 pm

keithmac wrote:Yes the label released the stems and encouraged people to make and create their own mixes and give them away, play them on mix shows etc..it is a proven strategy one that Missy Elliot championed to cross over into dance going back before the EDM U.S. explosion, so fast forward, Gotye goes to Number 1 all around the world, their label Universal Music Group steps in and has soundcloud remove all remixes so they can squeeze every last penny out of iTunes sales, msg from soundcloud "By legal regulation we are obliged to act on content being reported as infringing others' copyright. We received the takedown request from Universal Music."

So they use everyone to make mixes and help promote the music in multiple formats and when the group makes it they come in and take down all the mixes that helped propel the song/band to the heights they achieved. Same thing happened with Martin Solveig "Hello", loads of soundcloud mixes, songs blows up worldwide, label comes in and removes all the mixes that help propel the song.
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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by Shum » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:22 pm

wow, that is some post right there. :lol:

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Re: Soundcloud removing remixes?

Post by wub » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:17 am

Missy Elliot giving away the Get Ur Freak On acapella was the smartest move she (or moreover, her label) ever did.

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