Homophobia?

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:10 am

Such a silly thread

hutyluty · Post by **hutyluty** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:13 am

When im in a shit club (ie. Tiger tiger or something) i often feel up alpha male guys just cos its hilarious

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:20 am

ketamine wrote:
Soiree wrote:
ketamine wrote: Of course you can have sex for more reasons than reproduction. That doesn't make two members of the same sex having it natural. If people want to live that way they have that choice, but no amount of celebrities choosing to live that way are going to make me accept it as Nature.
Ever heard the phrase "I'm straight, but not narrow" get what that means? Explain to me WTF is "natural"? I bet you hunted lunch today, grow your own organic outdoor, built your own house, and practice the Amish Pagan lifestyle. Were pretty fucking far from "natural" these days. Maybe your cock belongs in a tnuc, but to question the nature of anyone elses love life without acceptance makes you an ignorant tnuc.

BTW, with out the queer influence there wouldn't be House Music.
It doesn't make me anything but a person telling the truth. Ignorance is that without knowledge. I know full well a homosexual human isn't operating within their natural setup. Thats not ignorance. I never judged them, but I'm not going to pretend its Natural either or be told i have a Phobia because I don't feed into the lifestyle.

Human's closest relatives, Bonnobos, are actually as close to a bisexual species as you can get. Sex isn't just a form of reproduction in some intelligent species, it's social behavior. Taking care of your loved ones, relaxation, etc. Homosexuality in humans likely serves the purpose of giving children a stronger support net growing up. It's not just parents that raise the child, it's the family/community. With less mouths to feed and more people to take care of the child, it ensures more healthy offspring. And the gay member of the family still benefits from it becaus 25% of their own genes still get passed on by it (let's say there's 2 sisters, one of straight the other is gay and the straight one bares a child, her sister will helps raising it and because she's her sister, 25% of her genes are present in the baby's).

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:35 am

Gay people are fully capable of sexually reproducing, yo, hello.

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:09 am

nowaysj wrote:Gay people are fully capable of sexually reproducing, yo, hello.

The point is that they usally don't. And in that respect, they're more likely to help raise a child than procreate.

Sexual_Chocolate · Post by **Sexual_Chocolate** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:51 am

nowaysj wrote:Gay people are fully capable of sexually reproducing, yo, hello.

by themselves eg without medical assistance of any kind?

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:01 am

do I need to say this thread is gay?

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:04 am

Electric_Head wrote:do I need to say this thread is gay?

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:09 am

lol "nature"

Firstly, let me point out that I have absolutely no animosity towards the gay community. But I don't see how homosexuality is anything but a choice. To say that there is no choice would imply a biological link, to which there is no credible evidence for after more than a century of various studies.

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:14 am

Yet kids are born daily that know at an incredibly young age that they should be the opposite sex.

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:20 am

I don't buy that at all. Just cause a young girl likes to play football doesn't mean she likes the girls.

magma · Post by **magma** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:21 am

AllNightDayDream wrote:lol "nature"

Firstly, let me point out that I have absolutely no animosity towards the gay community. But I don't see how homosexuality is anything but a choice. To say that there is no choice would imply a biological link, to which there is no credible evidence for after more than a century of various studies.

Did you have a choice in finding men sexual unappealing?

Why would people find it so hard to believe that other people experience life differently to them? You've never viewed a man through a homosexual's eyes, how can you possibly have an idea what it's like?

Do Giraffes decide to be gay too or is it just that sexual motivation is haphazard at best? A bit like.... everything else... I find it funny how we are all happy that people can be born tall, short, clever, stupid, black, white, naturally skinny, naturally rotund etc etc; even sexual and asexual... but not heterosexual and homosexual. It seems a strange place to start drawing bold lines. People are made up of tens of thousands of interacting genes... the only thing we all really have in common is that (most of us, not even all) could reproduce with other humans. Finding out that you don't understand the motivations of people who are different to you shouldn't really be a surprise. It's pretty logical. I can't understand why people like the taste of coffee... but most humans that aren't me do. Or why some people naturally smile at the sound of Psytrance. It doesn't make them unnatural just because they don't see the world through my brain, it just means there's variety in nature.

Variety's good. Celebrate it.

magma · Post by **magma** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:21 am

AllNightDayDream wrote:I don't buy that at all. Just cause a young girl likes to play football doesn't mean she likes the girls.

Whaaaa?? Who said that?

Transgender =/= Homosexual

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:22 am

Gays are so gay

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:23 am

magma wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:lol "nature"

Firstly, let me point out that I have absolutely no animosity towards the gay community. But I don't see how homosexuality is anything but a choice. To say that there is no choice would imply a biological link, to which there is no credible evidence for after more than a century of various studies.
Did you have a choice in finding men sexual unappealing?

Why would people find it so hard to believe that other people experience life differently to them? You've never viewed a man through a homosexual's eyes, how can you possibly have an idea what it's like?

Do Giraffes decide to be gay too or is it just that sexual motivation is haphazard at best? A bit like.... everything else... I find it funny how we are all happy that people can be born tall, short, clever, stupid, black, white, naturally skinny, naturally rotund etc etc; even sexual and asexual... but not heterosexual and homosexual. It seems a strange place to start drawing bold lines. People are made up of tens of thousands of interacting genes... the only thing we all really have in common is that (most of us, not even all) could reproduce with other humans. Finding out that you don't understand the motivations of people who are different to you shouldn't really be a surprise. It's pretty logical. I can't understand why people like the taste of coffee... but most humans that aren't me do. Or why some people naturally smile at the sound of Psytrance. It doesn't make them unnatural just because they don't see the world through my brain, it just means there's variety in nature.

Variety's good. Celebrate it.

Excuse me but what? This is what I don't understand, and it happens a lot when I talk about this. Just because I don't see any evidence for homosexuality being a born trait doesn't mean I have a problem with it.

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:24 am

magma wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:I don't buy that at all. Just cause a young girl likes to play football doesn't mean she likes the girls.
Whaaaa?? Who said that?

Transgender =/= Homosexual

Then what does it mean for a child who doesn't even fully understand the concept of gender to KNOW he/she has the wrong body?

collige · Post by **collige** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:25 am

AllNightDayDream wrote:To say that there is no choice would imply a biological link, to which there is no credible evidence for after more than a century of various studies.

Or it's a result of certain circumstances during pregnancy/infancy/childhood/who the fuck knows. To go back to a very old argument, did you choose to be straight?

Electric_Head · Post by **Electric_Head** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:27 am

AllNightDayDream wrote:I don't buy that at all. Just cause a young girl likes to play football doesn't mean she likes the girls.

I'm not talking about a tom boy.
My father in law is friends with a 26 yr old guy who from the age of 7 new he was meant to be a girl.
Last year she completed her gender change.
She is now a female and far happier for it.

She's still bat shit crazy though.

Although I am not talking about homosexuality here so we've missed the point of this thread.

magma · Post by **magma** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:27 am

AllNightDayDream wrote:Excuse me but what? This is what I don't understand, and it happens a lot when I talk about this. Just because I don't see any evidence for homosexuality being a born trait doesn't mean I have a problem with it.

I didn't say you did - I was disagreeing that it's not natural. I think it's perfectly natural... if it wasn't natural, I don't know why uncivilised animals would do it. How has a giraffe been corrupted by the human gay agenda?

Even if it's not a "born" genetic combination that produces it, it's likely that the experiences that lead people to develop their sexual appetites happen so early in life that there's no effective choice involved.

Just like most of us are hopelessly, subconsciously hooked on sugar by the time we're old enough to set our own diets, most of us have already decided the sort of people we're likely to be attracted to fairly early. It's so subliminal that a "choice" seems absolutely crazy.

My best mate at secondary school came out when he was 15. I knew he was gay from the day I met him at the age of about 9. We never used to mention it, but it was just obvious.

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:28 am

collige wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:To say that there is no choice would imply a biological link, to which there is no credible evidence for after more than a century of various studies.
Or it's a result of certain circumstances during pregnancy/infancy/childhood/who the fuck knows. To go back to a very old argument, did you choose to be straight?

Absolutely. There is no innate boundary in my brain that would keep from jumpin some bone if I felt like it. Shit, I've kissed a dude before. But women, for a variety of reasons, intrigue me more, and physically attract me more.

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