Post your unpopular opinions.

[Shum]

One thing that does fuck me off is all the fucking advertising towards children.

funny you should mention this. earlier this morning i was watching pokemon while having breakfast and the ads were definitely an eye opener. It got me thinking though, was it just as bad when I was a kid watching morning cartoons? I don't remember seeing that many but my parents still have all sorts of toys and crap that I presumably learnt about through ads.

[HamCrescendo]

it was definitely as bad when i was a kid


the pokemon tv series was one long exercise in marketing




was great though

[ultraspatial]

good job making your friend gay

Tbf, I don't think there are many boys toys aimed at shopping or makeup

Idk, I'm sure there's merit to what Dfd's saying, but do you really think what toys they play with as a kid sends subliminal messages that determine how they feel they must act when they become adults?

subliminal? more like explicit. it's not just toys anyway, it's every aspect of socialisation, from childhood to adulthood. it's just toys to me are an interesting example because it is SO blatant and so beyond anything most people recognise as reality. but there are other examples, there's this relentless barrage of images and norms about what men and women should do and be like, in music, in films, whatever. a good little example is of the "men's magazines" shelf in tesco (cars, men's health, zoo, nuts, but also ALL the music magazines, the economist, the new scientist, and private eye. wtf? the women's section was celebrity bullshit, weight loss, food, babies, clothes. but someone put those magazines in those sections and thought that was fine. and their choice is derived from cultural norms, and broadcasts those norms to everyone else.)

lol at magma's reply to my lipstick thing - but it's true. even when other people my age wore make up i didn't, although i felt pressure to, and dress feminine and stuff. i used to read these stupid magazines and everything. part of the reason i didn't was money - my mum wasn't gonna buy me this shit. but when i got to uni my make up collection suddenly BALLOONED and literally the amount of toiletries i have is embarrassing. all of it mostly pointless. that said, i do enjoy using it, but i'm not sure how much of that is me being happy that i'm not an outsider anymore, and i can use this shit as well - and people don't generally consider me ugly.

there has to be an agenda to it that the creators have as an idea. not necessarily always explicit, but based on norms that they entertain and reproduce in their products. i don't buy this totally supply-side construction of consumption, whereby products are just whatever people who buy them want them to be. the producers of consumer goods are ultimately the ones who control the design and can greatly influence what actually exists in the market. they - to an extent - control choice. and when they advertise, when they are advertising shit that you actually don't need or want, they are trying to convince you that you want it. if that's by making you think you need to use this thing to be an acceptable person, to be an attractive woman, to be a real man, to be a cool kid, then so be it.

was reading some old kanye west interview yesterday describing how he became homophobic. you've all been kids. "gay" is the worst thing you can be. kids are absolute psychopaths when it comes to norms like this. but try and teach kids some awareness about what homosexuality means and why homophobic bullying is wrong and you're "indoctrinating" kids... hmmm

all of this

Reminds me of a discussion I had with some people at this gender studies organization I'm working with atm. I was ranting about how my favourite cigarettes (virginia slims and vogue) are targeted exclusively at women. It's like those companies are completely oblivious to the fact that men can actually like their products. Both had some promotional campaigns in which they talked only about women and gave away shit like jewelry, spa treatments, shopping trips to Paris etc (things "only women like").

[NiGHTS_24]

Seems like a bit of an unbreakable continuum - the societal "norms" continue to be perpetrated by the media etc, so people continue to follow them, so they continue be perpetrated....

This.

I know a lot of people in SNH always have answers, or at least they like to think so, but I just genuinely don't know what to do here.

The company I work for is always in the The Times (?) Top 50 Places For Women To Work, and the head of the UK is regularly in papers for interviews about women in top positions, but what impact is that going to make when the first 20 pages of papers are took up with women in too much make up, some of them famous literally for going on nights out on the TV or being married to a famous man, and getting rich/successful/famous off it, all the while, the biggest shows on TV are about becoming rich and famous off of almost zero effort. Why bother when you can doll yourself up and bag yourself one of them? Grim.

More of these types of show are popping up all the time and the only real reason i can think why is because they are cheap to make and if the show is a flop then the loss isnt to bad for the tv company. Kinda sad


I did some work experience for about a week in a kindergarten and if you let the kids choose their toys then you get girls playing with toys that would be aimed a boys and vice versa. There was a boy who dressed up as a princess.

I somethings find it weird when some transgender people( the ones i see on tv) say they dont feel a man because theres no real definition of what a man is. I dont have a problem with it. Its just seems a strange thing to say

[idontreallygiveashit]

So My Little Pony is just an excuse to get along with others and make new friends just like any other community. Got it, but still... it's the dedication bit i don't feel comfortable with, the way many feel towards "gamers", "jugallos" and "trekkies". Like whatever you want, but don't dedicate and identify yourself solely to media, you look like an idiot.

PS Fiat 500 - i like that car, but i'm not allowed to drive one cus itz for girlz.

[Electric_Head]

Being a trekkie or being into Star Wars is different to a grown man worshiping small effeminate rainbow ponies.

[idontreallygiveashit]

By saying that you're going to loop the previous page and it's many thousands of words. I like your style.

[PinUp]

Fiat 500 - i like that car, but i'm not allowed to drive one cus itz for girlz.

get the manlier version

[Electric_Head]

Yes, very manly.

[PinUp]

It's got a scorpion on the badge mate, it doesn't get any manlier!

[idontreallygiveashit]

looks sick
doing it for the gentlemanz

[Elektrastallion]

It annoys me that if a girl does something boys do, it's cool with society. But if a boy does something with the tiniest bit of "girly" in it, they are immediatly bashed at, and are called gay or homo.

[ehbes]

C'est la vie

[particle-jim]

It annoys me that if a girl does something boys do, it's cool with society. But if a boy does something with the tiniest bit of "girly" in it, they are immediatly bashed at, and are called gay or homo.

Yeah, coz women ivolved in mechanics/engineering/other traditionally male industries get fair treatment compared to their male counterparts

Seeing as you are clearly talking about mlp let me put it this way, its not that its aimed at girls but that its aimed young girls/children and an adult male obsessing over it is frankly a bit fucking creepy

[Electric_Head]

Tiniest bit of girly???

It's a fucking rainbow, pony.
You're either a pedophile looking for a victim by having inside pony info or you're legitimately strange in the head.
I never said you were gay though.

[Elektrastallion]

Tiniest bit of girly???

It's a fucking rainbow, pony.
You're either a pedophile looking for a victim by having inside pony info or you're legitimately strange in the head.
I never said you were gay though.

For the last time, liking a show =/= being a pedophile. People need to fit that through their thick skulls.

[Electric_Head]

You really like my little pony?
I mean deep down inside; during those special cudly moments.
Are you seriously all, "FUCK THIS PROGRAM IS GOOD!!!"

seriously??

You're special in the head.

[kidshuffle]

i used to watch barney for the compelling storyline and characters. those delicious characters....

[Electric_Head]

It's all about the sing along.

I love you
you love me
we're a happy family
with great big hug and a kiss from me to you
won't you say you looooove me toooooo

[wobbles]

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