how do you approach new genres?

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:58 am

DIGIPLAST wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:
DIGIPLAST wrote:so my tip is: listen to the latest house tracks on beatport or similar sites to get a feel for the genre.
Your shitting me right ?
no. why ? because it's mainstream? those producers know what they are doing. there is nothing wrong with getting a feel for the genre by just listening to what is selling well apparently.

So you judge Quality by what is popular....

DIGIPLAST · Post by **DIGIPLAST** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:21 am

ehbrums1 wrote:
DIGIPLAST wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:
DIGIPLAST wrote:so my tip is: listen to the latest house tracks on beatport or similar sites to get a feel for the genre.
Your shitting me right ?
no. why ? because it's mainstream? those producers know what they are doing. there is nothing wrong with getting a feel for the genre by just listening to what is selling well apparently.
So you judge Quality by what is popular....

no of course not. there is a lot of underground talent hidden in the electronic music world, but for a beginner it is important to know what kind of productions are being accepted as proper music. you can always advance your own style from there.

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:57 am

ehbrums1 wrote:
DIGIPLAST wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:
DIGIPLAST wrote:so my tip is: listen to the latest house tracks on beatport or similar sites to get a feel for the genre.
Your shitting me right ?
no. why ? because it's mainstream? those producers know what they are doing. there is nothing wrong with getting a feel for the genre by just listening to what is selling well apparently.
So you judge Quality by what is popular....

I'd sure as hell trust someone at #1 more than someone who's never charted.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:05 am

J devil over burial ?

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:01 am

What are you talking about? Burial has had countless releases and Johnathan Davis has like 2 half ass demos on his soundcloud.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:03 am

and I'm willing to bet he will be above burial on beatport...

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:13 am

I'm still not getting your point. Of the thousands of producers that have been in the bp top ten you're trying to use the side project of the singer of a wildly popular band who hasn't released anything yet as an argument against one of the most respected producers in the genre. Even if you're right and Jonathan becomes the biggest artist in dubstep, that still means my theory roughly has a 0.1% margin of error.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:16 am

So if he was #1 on beatport you would think him to be a better producer?

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:23 am

You're overreaching just to be an asshole.

Gather 1000 producers that have hit #1 on bp and 1000 random soundcloud producers and tell me which group you'd rather take advice from.

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:24 am

ehbrums1 wrote:So if he was #1 on beatport you would think him to be a better producer?

I think this guys a troll:

Attila wrote: Art's a ridiculous, pretentious, meaningless word.

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:34 am

Unfortunately trolls don't have completely reasonable arguments to back up their claims.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:36 am

Sluggo v illegal subs... I rest my case

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:37 am

Attila wrote:Unfortunately trolls don't have completely reasonable arguments to back up their claims.

lol, your completely reasonable argument is that the more popular an artist is, the better he/she is?

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:09 am

Terpit wrote:
Attila wrote:Unfortunately trolls don't have completely reasonable arguments to back up their claims.
lol, your completely reasonable argument is that the more popular an artist is, the better he/she is?

I really believe you have trouble interpreting the English language.

Honestly, if you're trying to argue that the worse a musician does, the more skilled they are then I extend a hearty laugh of sympathy to you.

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:23 am

Attila wrote:
Terpit wrote:
Attila wrote:Unfortunately trolls don't have completely reasonable arguments to back up their claims.
lol, your completely reasonable argument is that the more popular an artist is, the better he/she is?
I really believe you have trouble interpreting the English language.

Honestly, if you're trying to argue that the worse a musician does, the more skilled they are then I extend a hearty laugh of sympathy to you.

Attila wrote:I'd sure as hell trust someone at #1 more than someone who's never charted.

(go and look at all the top selling albums on beatports dubstep section, if you honestly think that those tracks are the best tracks that are out then i have genuine pity for you)

.. No more troll feeding im afraid, bait someone else into a silly argument.

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:29 am

Go on soundcloud, search for x genre, listen to the first 10 tracks. They're not the best tracks either, but for someone who's trying to learn and get a feel for a new genre, you want to listen to what's popular because

A-its almost guaranteed to have good production values

B-It'll give you the most current representation of what that genre is

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:36 am

Attila wrote:Go on soundcloud, search for x genre, listen to the first 10 tracks. They're not the best tracks either, but for someone who's trying to learn and get a feel for a new genre, you want to listen to what's popular because

A-its almost guaranteed to have good production values

B-It'll give you the most current representation of what that genre is

You seem to have gone from one extreme to the other, from top of the charts, to an absolute beginner producer who obviously wont have a high quality of production. The point i was making was that there are artists out there who are not famous and who dont reach the top 10 albums of the week or whatever but who are producing good quality music. it just takes time + patience to find the good stuff.

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:46 am

And I completely agree, but the op was just trying to get a feel for house before making a few one off tracks it seemed, so checking out the top 100 just seems like a quicker way to get an idea of the genre instead of spending hours hunting down the absolute best it has to offer.

Especially for something like house, I don't think it'd hurt to listen to a few avicii tracks or whatever. I'm not at all well versed in it, but a lot of the songs I've heard have been pretty straightforward.

Terpit · Post by **Terpit** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:53 am

Attila wrote:And I completely agree, but the op was just trying to get a feel for house before making a few one off tracks it seemed, so checking out the top 100 just seems like a quicker way to get an idea of the genre instead of spending hours hunting down the absolute best it has to offer.

Especially for something like house, I don't think it'd hurt to listen to a few avicii tracks or whatever. I'm not at all well versed in it, but a lot of the songs I've heard have been pretty straightforward.

I dont really think the OP should start trying to make house if he doesnt even know what sort of house he likes or wants to make, and i think listening to the top 100, if anything, will influence him in a bad way. Itll be worth just spending time to find some quality first.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:02 am

Don't get into house. You'd be much more unique if you were making house without knowing what other house guys tend to do.

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