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Attila wrote:Go on soundcloud, search for x genre, listen to the first 10 tracks. They're not the best tracks either, but for someone who's trying to learn and get a feel for a new genre, you want to listen to what's popular because
A-its almost guaranteed to have good production values
B-It'll give you the most current representation of what that genre is
Lool, noone ever said random sooundcloud producers (although i am better than all the beatport top ten)). Its mainly beatport top ten people have a problem with as opposed to sa boomkat or juno.
Beatport are peddlers of the most middle of the road "EDM"- calling stuff house which is about as far away from the original house aesthetic as one can get. To get a greater understanding of house go no further than this website- ever noticed the house forum?
Because those are some broad stereotypes you have going on there. I love how you all love to cut Americans from the same swath of cloth. There are loads of househeads and technoheads here. You will find them mostly in the cities. I'm not going to deny that there are a lot of clueless people that don't know electronic music, but there are loads of those people in Europe and England as well.
Which brings me back to the OP. Make what you want, but if you are going to make some music that you know nothing about and then say you are never going to make it again, then why bother? Just go to the house section of this board to see how mis-appropriated that term is, which is kind of an insult to all of the people who have spent years building that scene.
Yeah sorry, perhaps i should have worded it better. Its precisely because of the groups of dedicated techo-heads, househeads in detroit/chicago and everywhere else that i find (admittedly my perception of) mainstream US attitudes to dance music so depressing. To me it seems to be split between the whole "disco sucks" crew still malignantly hanging on to the fresh faced young raver that has no idea that disco played a part bringing about the music they claim they love, or that it was pioneered in clubs just down the road.
And no i have never been to america, so my opinions are based on twerps like attilla on this forum- though i would love a trip to chicago one day in the near future!
jrisreal wrote:Don't get into house. You'd be much more unique if you were making house without knowing what other house guys tend to do.
Next gen hipstering, think MGMT was supposedly doing this.
Only possible if you love producing and don't love music. Or if you think every track you make is the
best one in the genre maybe
Agent 47 wrote:Next time I can think of something, I will.
Sorry if I came across as too aggro yesterday. It wasn't my intention, I was feeling a bit vexed.
House and Electro are two genres that I will soldier for though.
Check out this mix from Kerri Chandler. It was a Resident Advisor podcast. Kerri Chandler is a veteran producer and DJ from New Jersey. He has probably been DJ'ing since before most of the people on this board were born.
Also here is a documentary on House Music including footage of the Paradise Garage in New York which is where Garage music got its name. House was named after the Warehouse in Chicago. Both of these clubs were Disco clubs that started in the mid/late '70s.
no problem man i think i can speak for everyone that a person truely standing for a music genre is better than every halfass trying to make money out of music or getting famous
so big ups for standing your point
if its a genre i listen to i cease all listening, kinda remember the structure and do my own take on it for a month or 2 then compare to influence
i just wish i was skilled enough to do a solo post rock deal
Post rock is so much fun to compose man. Writing more ambient, evolving stuff just in general is less frustrating and more therapeutic than anything else I've tried.
Attila wrote:Post rock is so much fun to compose man. Writing more ambient, evolving stuff just in general is less frustrating and more therapeutic than anything else I've tried.
Post-Rock is one of my favorite genres, my band has lots of PR influence and stuff in our music, and it comes up in my electronic stuff too. You're right about it being fun to make.
As for approaching new genres, I find it comes a lot more naturally to slowly start adding influence/elements of new genres into your tunes rather than just aiming to make a house track or a dubstep track. Try making dubstepy shit with 4x4 drum patterns or housey shit with lots of sub, or dubstep at 120bpm, etc. etc. that way you can phase in and out elements and not stress out about "is this house or dubstep or post-complextro fidget" or whatever. Once you forget about genres you have the freedom to do whatever you want.
Attila wrote:Post rock is so much fun to compose man. Writing more ambient, evolving stuff just in general is less frustrating and more therapeutic than anything else I've tried.
i love it, port-royale is my shit that i love that i cant remaqke
Terpit wrote:I didn't know the guy from Saw was a DJ
I don't know who Saw is, but if its the guy that is appearing in the still shot, that is Mel Cheren (RIP) who is a record industry veteran, founder of West End Records which was one of the most influential Disco labels and the founder and owner of one of the most influential clubs, the Paradise Garage.
jrisreal wrote:Don't get into house. You'd be much more unique if you were making house without knowing what other house guys tend to do.
bang on. house creates some of the best producers and can be one of the best examples of electronic music when done right but some of it is literally background music that no one would ever notice because it sounds exactly the same as the track it was mixed into. having a distinctive sound in house isn't even hard and it pays off majorly, even julio bashmore said he just took the chicago house sound and added loads of bass to it. even little minor tweaks on an existing formula can make your own signature, give it that edge that makes it stand out in a 2hr long mix.
Terpit wrote:I didn't know the guy from Saw was a DJ
I don't know who Saw is, but if its the guy that is appearing in the still shot, that is Mel Cheren (RIP) who is a record industry veteran, founder of West End Records which was one of the most influential Disco labels and the founder and owner of one of the most influential clubs, the Paradise Garage.
It was a joke man, I didnt watch the video, the guy in the still looks like this guy tho.
