What's the consensus on the shelf-life of tunes?????

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What's the consensus on the shelf-life of tunes?????

Post by jolly wailer » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:18 am

So yeah - with all this talk of this-and-that tune being rinsed out thoroughly by DJ's and the sort of rabid thrist for new tracks - and selectors breaking totally fresh tunes all the time...

how long do the unwritten rules of dubstep state that a tune may be able to still be played at a dance... will the shrewd heads just be off yawning somewhere in a corner if the DJ is playing tunes that are more than a month old?

whats the shelf life -

3 months - 6 months ???

a year or more if shit is classic bang out material??

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Post by quietmouse » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:25 am

By the time the rest of us can get it on vinyl, the craze is about over!

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Post by jolly wailer » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:59 am

seems futile then innit?



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Post by [b]racket » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:06 am

Its going the same way as dnb did imo.

I'm sure there has been big debate on the whole dubplate culture on here before...

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Post by gravious » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:09 am

I've heard plenty of big DJs still dropping "Changes" quite often - some tunes last quite a while!

Mind you, not heard Request Line for a while.

But I'd say for all the new new new tunes getting played, theres still legs in some of the oldies.

As for dubplate culture - get the wee magnifying glass out! Virtual reams of threads on that

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Post by ajantis_art » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:36 am

I'm of the opinion that a quality tune is still quality, regardless of how log its been about. Regarding vinyl, i personally just really enjoy listening to records and mixing at home and out and about, so i couldnt really care less about shel;f life. Also, take last dmz for example... crunked up got played BARE STILL, midnight request, look how long we've all been raving to lean fwd etc. If it's a banger, i'll rave to it tho.

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Post by el sudor » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:04 am

ShelfLife 004 Roxy (5) Watch Dis / Morse Code (12")


best shelflife tune........


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Post by dj $hy » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:14 am

ajantis_art wrote:I'm of the opinion that a quality tune is still quality, regardless of how log its been about. Regarding vinyl, i personally just really enjoy listening to records and mixing at home and out and about, so i couldnt really care less about shel;f life. Also, take last dmz for example... crunked up got played BARE STILL, midnight request, look how long we've all been raving to lean fwd etc. If it's a banger, i'll rave to it tho.
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Post by thomas » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:45 am

For ever, I don't spend 5.99 on a track now for it to be dead to me in a month.

If people get bored of it coz its rinsed so much, let it lie for a while, but tracks shouldnt loose appeal because of time, i like to think in 5 years time i'll be pulling out Red Eye and blasting Round the World Girls still

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Post by bainbridge » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:54 pm

its not the length of time that dictates a tracks shelf life, its the amount of time you play or hear it. even the best tracks can be over played, but they can be put away and brought out again in a years time and its like a fresh track again, just depends on how many times you've heard it.

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Post by shonky » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:00 pm

A lot of them are overplayed as soon as the drop comes in.

I'm so fickle
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Post by forensix (mcr) » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:01 pm

Shonky wrote:A lot of them are overplayed as soon as the drop comes in.

I'm so fickle
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Post by brooksy » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:11 pm

a banger is a banger... new tunes get rinsed to death, but if you hear someone drop anti-war dub, or even request line out it still sounds epic.... I agree with what was said before, I like to have the tracks to listen to/mix at home so couldn't give a fuck about shelf life....

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Post by crazydave » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:17 pm

Thomas wrote:For ever, I don't spend 5.99 on a track now for it to be dead to me in a month.

If people get bored of it coz its rinsed so much, let it lie for a while, but tracks shouldnt loose appeal because of time, i like to think in 5 years time i'll be pulling out Red Eye and blasting Round the World Girls still
Innit. It's not just about "freshness" or being ahead of the game.

We want to be rinsing these tunes in 20 years' time! :)

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Post by secretagentgel » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:10 pm

keep in mind too that we're on our shit. i go way out of my way to hear the newest plates from. but i got to an off night, a non-dubstep night, whatever and most of the tunes are older. meaning the ones you can actually get on vinyl. and if it's good, it'll keep coming back. bores me, but im a scenester and a snob. :-) everyone else is feeling.

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Post by jason burns » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:39 pm

i think it can depend on your crowd actually. for example i know that anywhere i play around here (Ohio, usa.) nobody's really heard anything anyway. every set is like an intro to dubstep.

and it's always seemed to me that those dj's who concern themselvs with always having the newest of the new tunes are sacrificing the interest of the crowd for the envy and respect of the other 4 dj's who might be there.

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Post by abZ » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:43 pm

secretagentgel wrote:keep in mind too that we're on our shit. i go way out of my way to hear the newest plates from. but i got to an off night, a non-dubstep night, whatever and most of the tunes are older. meaning the ones you can actually get on vinyl. and if it's good, it'll keep coming back. bores me, but im a scenester and a snob. :-) everyone else is feeling.
Good point.

If a tune is overplayed then it's overplayed. I don't want to hear 3 dj's in one night playing the same tunes over and over again. But average listeners (at least in the states) don't even know about half of the big tunes. Do your audience a favor and play those big ones for them.

The local dnb scene here it seems like all the dj's go out of their way to not play tunes that are really popular. So all you hear every week is some boring obscure tracks that no one gives a fuck about. Don't let that happen to dubstep.

So anyway yeah I don't give a fuck about shelflife. I don't spend all that money on records just to let them collect dust.

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Post by little boh peep » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:25 pm

I'll play something for as long as I still like it, and can find a stellar mix for it.

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Post by crazydave » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:29 pm

jason burns wrote:and it's always seemed to me that those dj's who concern themselvs with always having the newest of the new tunes are sacrificing the interest of the crowd for the envy and respect of the other 4 dj's who might be there.
This sounds eminently possible.

It's all about balance!!

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