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Re: Too Much EQ'ing

Post by Ficticious » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:10 am

honestly imo, it shouldn't take more than 2..but what do I know?
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Re: Too Much EQ'ing

Post by Sharmaji » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:14 pm

that's waaaaaaaaay too much eq. from start to finish i can see a sound being eq'd 4, maybe 5 times-- a simple filter when writing to get the sound in the right space, then maybe (maybe) doing more surgical eq when you're really in the meat of a mix, then maybe cutting lows or highs before a compressor, if it's routed to a group an EQ might be there, then in mastering...

but 9eq's while you're writing makes me think that you've got a really odd-sounding room, or that everything is just too loud and you've got no room for things to fit.. turn it all down and see if you can mix w/o eq-- THEN start shaping sounds, without using the solo button.
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Re: Too Much EQ'ing

Post by drake89 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:23 pm

Bassf4ce wrote:
drake89 wrote:only time i been using more than 1 eq is to eq click out of subs that were gated. i assume it works better than 1 because you only get -12db in ableton's eq8. not sure how the math works or anything, but it works to my ears! but yeah dude, you went waaaaay overboard there. esp since you hp'd and lp'd and cut/boosted everything in between!!!
I only boosted cause I thought/think, since I am cutting shouldn't I boost a few things to balance it out?
No! That's illogical 1, and 2 once you cut boosting will not do much since there's nothing there to boost in the first place.

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Re: Too Much EQ'ing

Post by Bassf4ce » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:54 pm

What do you mean there is nothing to boost? There is a whole mid range of Freqs!
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Re: Too Much EQ'ing

Post by Electric_Head » Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:04 pm

You are cutting a frequency and then boosting the same frequency.
Chances are it will do nothing.
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Re: Too Much EQ'ing

Post by D3ATHSTEP » Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:48 am

BombsandBottles wrote:
Bassf4ce wrote:If you have to eq a sound to the point you have 9 Eq's is it even worth using that sound?
EQ should be used for mixing, not sound design. I try to use as little EQ as possible, it makes the composition better if everything sits in its own range without EQ.

This is false. Some of my favorite sound design is achieved through EQ automation and very specific boosts, etc.
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Making 20+ EQ cuts in a bass?

Post by alexfsu » Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:12 am

I've never seen anyone make this many cuts in any sound. Starting at around 9 min he just goes to town. Is this proper mixing technique? Or should I not worry and just go with the mantra,"if it sounds good, it is good."?



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Re: Making 20+ EQ cuts in a bass?

Post by wub » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:37 am

Seems a bit excessive, but if it works then why not? Concentrate on getting the sound how you want it first and worry about refining the process later.

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Re: Making 20+ EQ cuts in a bass?

Post by sunny_b_uk » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:14 pm

i doubt it lol, its too bothersome.
my advice is to make your sound as good as possible at the start of the chain, if your using a basic saw wave then get the sound as good as possible with the right settings.
if your using massive then get your bass sounding as good as it can before you EQ or add any fx, i rarely have to do any surgical EQing to sounds i create when applying this habit.

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Re: Making 20+ EQ cuts in a bass?

Post by Bassf4ce » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:18 pm

This is the video that inspired this thread: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=254795

In which I thought it was ok to do this:
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Re: Too Much EQ'ing

Post by MassAphekt » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:07 pm

Bassf4ce wrote:
1point5 wrote:Don't dwell on the EQing, seriously. Give your bass some reverb, that's what it's begging for to my ears. Then it'll sound pretty awesome 8)
Yes! That is very good advice thanks for enlightening me! Though I suck at reverb, I only have Fl's reverb plugins and some really complicated one(Epicverb).
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Re: Making 20+ EQ cuts in a bass?

Post by Sharmaji » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:09 pm

alexfsu wrote:I've never seen anyone make this many cuts in any sound. Starting at around 9 min he just goes to town. Is this proper mixing technique?
it's sound design, so technique goes out the window.

w/ that said, christ that tune sounds atrocious.
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