Guys i need help

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:33 am

Right, started off producing this year...

simply fruity loops, no midi keyboard, complete mousework, crappy speakers..

my 18th birthday is this week, and this is a real oppertunity to "floss out my pc" if you will

suggestions on what 2 start with

midi keyboard
speakers already come 2mind

but any other litle bits and pieces that could help me into something practical for a still beginner

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:38 am

Any idea on Budget?

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:43 am

200-300

i got a sorocco, a tag huer and a 42 inch plasma, so cant really complain

thanks

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:50 am

Hmmm

Probably best spending about £100 or less on a keyboard and about £200+ on Speakers

Keyboard wise

anything by Novation

Speakers

there are loads of good deals on www.turnkey.co.uk personally i would go for the Tannoy Reveals with about £200 having had a good listen to them

What's your soundcard?

Sub Shifter · Post by **Sub Shifter** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:56 am

how much doe are you getting ruffly so i can price you a few tings up
you gonna need a descent soundcard and a midi keyboard plus speakers

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deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:26 pm

not 2 sure which sound card iv got forensix (mcr), im currently at college and will check for when i go home...

thanks for the help so far guys, if anyone can reccomend n e fing else it would be appreciated!!

destoo · Post by **destoo** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:30 pm

low latency soundcard is a must if you wannna use midi keyboard!!!

optimum · Post by **optimum** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:49 pm

monitors

konkanok · Post by **konkanok** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:09 pm

optimum wrote:monitors

yea fuck a midi keyboard. waste of money in my opinion, monitors will do much more for you.

roqqert · Post by **roqqert** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:00 pm

start with a midi keyboard.. in the beginning you wont work alot with it but after you produced some tracks youll notice you cant without somehow...

the monitor thing.. get some monitors like 600 pounds per monitor. then youll have sound. not with monitors of 200. Monitors are almost the basic so dont get a cheap set. just spend good on that kinda shit.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:58 am

Roqqert wrote:
the monitor thing.. get some monitors like 600 pounds per monitor. then youll have sound. not with monitors of 200. Monitors are almost the basic so dont get a cheap set. just spend good on that kinda shit.

He has £200 not £1200?

You can get fairly decent monitors for that ok they wont be completely flat but if you understand the limitations of them you can get good results

roqqert · Post by **roqqert** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:00 am

just wait, work and get more moeny... why should you buy the things immidiatly

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:53 am

KonkaNok wrote:
optimum wrote:monitors
yea fuck a midi keyboard. waste of money in my opinion, monitors will do much more for you.

Just to throw in my two cents in light of that comment, I can't write without midi keyboard, totaly lost.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:47 am

Roqqert wrote:just wait, work and get more moeny... why should you buy the things immidiatly

dont mean to be rude but i would be hesitant about getting advice from someone who doesn't even know how to record vinyl onto his computer

Steve AC23 · Post by **Steve AC23** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:13 pm

Do you have any musical skills? Piano skills.......if you do......the midi controller will be a blessing........to be honest i rarely use mine...im not really musical tho i guess, like cant play melodic things easy...

i dont think it is ESSENTIAL to have a midi keyboard......

can you givus a example of what uve made so far?
you really dont want to spend a mint if ur just starting......

just use a hifi or summit.......buying stuff wont make u better.

spending 600 quid a monitor is stupid...unless ur minted obviously

id probably go with them tannoys aswell.

I seriously would just make do with whatever you have mate....

I think expensive monitors only come into proper effect when u actually understand exactly what ur doing with sound.

did any of that even make sense

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:24 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:
Roqqert wrote:just wait, work and get more moeny... why should you buy the things immidiatly
dont mean to be rude but i would be hesitant about getting advice from someone who doesn't even know how to record vinyl onto his computer

lol hold tight forensix (mcr)

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:41 pm

actually, good option for budget monitoring is headphones.

Senheisser HD 212 Pro go down to 12Hz which is good for something like dubstep. They are not flat by pro monitoring standards, but they key is listening to shitloads of music on them (as many of us tend to do with headphones, at work, going for a walk, in the train etc) to the point where you just know what they are suposed to sound like. You will know when it's time to get descent monitors and sound card, because you will be good enough to know that its holding you back.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:47 pm

fliPPo wrote:actually, good option for budget monitoring is headphones.

Senheisser HD 212 Pro go down to 12Hz which is good for something like dubstep. They are not flat by pro monitoring standards, but they key is listening to shitloads of music on them (as many of us tend to do with headphones, at work, going for a walk, in the train etc) to the point where you just know what they are suposed to sound like. You will know when it's time to get descent monitors and sound card, because you will be good enough to know that its holding you back.

bollocks buy £20,000 Monitors it's the only way your music will sound good

urbanite · Post by **urbanite** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:22 pm

I'd second the good headphones suggestion, though I'd recommend the HD-25s... And a good soundcard to go with those something like a firewire Echo Audiofire 2 or 4, you'll be getting enough quality out of those to actually hear your mix.

As far as a midi controller goes... I don't know, nowadays it's pretty much possible to use the computer keyboard for basic note input, so one could use that at first... Also any second hand old synth or something like that hooked up through midi should easily do the job. Wonder how much second hand midi controllers go for these days.

it does sound like he'd need to go about buying stuff in two or more batches though.

Steve AC23 · Post by **Steve AC23** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:16 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:
fliPPo wrote:actually, good option for budget monitoring is headphones.

Senheisser HD 212 Pro go down to 12Hz which is good for something like dubstep. They are not flat by pro monitoring standards, but they key is listening to shitloads of music on them (as many of us tend to do with headphones, at work, going for a walk, in the train etc) to the point where you just know what they are suposed to sound like. You will know when it's time to get descent monitors and sound card, because you will be good enough to know that its holding you back.
bollocks buy £20,000 Monitors it's the only way your music will sound good

is this true?

can somebody confirm?

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