The Official Growl Bass Thread

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by dotcurrency » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:27 am

Not to be the noob of the thread, but I'm terrible at making growls, the one that I've always raved over was KOAN Sound's growls. ESPECIALLY the one in Talk Box & Max Out. When I try to make that sound myself, I have like no clue where to start.
I have so many ideas of what I could do with that sound its ridiculous. I think culprate uses it too.


Sound at 1.15 on.


Sound at 0.23 on.


Sound at 0.35 on.




I feel like they're some kind of reeses but I really could use some help on this guys. :u:
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by twilitez » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:47 am

If were talking growls, my samples and some others have shown more complex sounds, this is all end-process filtering.

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by Augment » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:00 am

JicloTutorials wrote:
blinkesko wrote:Damn Jiclo, that was pretty awesome IMO. Could maybe do with a tad more work, but it was pretty dope. Good job, man
thanks man! wanna expand on what you think needs improvement?

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I just feel like there could be more in the intro, like some strings playing the chords, just something constant I think, filling out the space between the main melody.
But fuck man, I've listened to it like 10 times or so now, it's so good haha. The tempo switch was just perfect dude. :)
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by mromgwtf » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:07 pm

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Zero processing. Only massive. Only square-saw 1 wave.

Soundcloud version is shit. Here's hi-quality version:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ns21ooqahjqw5t/Growl13.mp3
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by JicloTutorials » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:38 pm

blinkesko wrote:
JicloTutorials wrote:
blinkesko wrote:Damn Jiclo, that was pretty awesome IMO. Could maybe do with a tad more work, but it was pretty dope. Good job, man
thanks man! wanna expand on what you think needs improvement?

:corndance:
I just feel like there could be more in the intro, like some strings playing the chords, just something constant I think, filling out the space between the main melody.
But fuck man, I've listened to it like 10 times or so now, it's so good haha. The tempo switch was just perfect dude. :)
haha im glad you like it. i know what you mean actually. i took some inspiration from this song and so i didnt really feel like it didnt need to be filled out

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by Italus » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:24 pm

before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.

THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.

then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)

and resampling until it sounds good.


Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by JicloTutorials » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:53 pm

Italus wrote:
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.

THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.

then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)

and resampling until it sounds good.


Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by Italus » Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:29 pm

JicloTutorials wrote:
Italus wrote:
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.

THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.

then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)

and resampling until it sounds good.


Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
lets hear it
Too lazy to upload... :6:

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by Scarcellex » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:13 pm

I used the methods described on here to come up with the growls in this track I made a while ago

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by twilitez » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:54 pm

Italus wrote:
JicloTutorials wrote:
Italus wrote:
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.

THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.

then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)

and resampling until it sounds good.


Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
lets hear it
Too lazy to upload... :6:
Where abouts would you EQ the parallel channel?

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by tomz » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:00 pm

mromgwtf wrote:Soundcloud
Zero processing. Only massive. Only square-saw 1 wave.

Soundcloud version is shit. Here's hi-quality version:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ns21ooqahjqw5t/Growl13.mp3
Can I check out the patch?

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by JicloTutorials » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:17 am

twilitez wrote:
Italus wrote:
JicloTutorials wrote:
Italus wrote:
before you do any EQ automating, try to have the growl have a pretty even spectrum, except with higher 1-3khz content and maybe some 100-300 hz phatness. i usually cut at 500-1000hz. sounds good.

THEN, once you have enough harmonic content, use an EQ and automate from 50~100 to 600-1000hz with a 10-15 db bell boost with Q of your choice.

then id probably continue EQ shaping it, parallel processing it with stuff like vintage exciter, psp vintagewarmer or even noveltech character (which is fucking amazing for shaping bass and lead sounds)

and resampling until it sounds good.


Well then I'm doing it right. I guess I expected an easier method, but there really isn't. Thanks for the help.
lets hear it
Too lazy to upload... :6:
Where abouts would you EQ the parallel channel?
i meant "id continue EQ shaping it. as well as a parallel processing it, as well as resampling"

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by mromgwtf » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:27 am

Scarcellex wrote:I used the methods described on here to come up with the growls in this track I made a while ago

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MY GOD

THIS IS FUCKING PERFECT

HOW DID YOU MAKE THAT GROWL? ANY INFORMATIONS?
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by mromgwtf » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:48 am

tomz wrote:
mromgwtf wrote:Soundcloud
Zero processing. Only massive. Only square-saw 1 wave.

Soundcloud version is shit. Here's hi-quality version:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ns21ooqahjqw5t/Growl13.mp3
Can I check out the patch?
What DAW are you using?

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Aw gad. I double posted. Forgive me.
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by shinra » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:32 pm

Scarcellex wrote:I used the methods described on here to come up with the growls in this track I made a while ago

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by dotcurrency » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:03 pm

My first attempt at growls:

you should be able to tell where the growls are (0.35). Instead of just having the growl, i decided to build a bit around it.
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I'm definitely looking for ways to improve my growls, I like making them so far :6:
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by balthazarely » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:49 pm

Huts wrote:
Italus wrote:The hardest part of making a growl sound good is EQ. I can never get it right with growls, anybody have certain methods they use? It would be greatly appreciated! :D
http://i.imgur.com/wuygF.png

the only way to EQ for those mega growls
i see in the fx chain your using a bifilter.. just curious as to what sorta filter its using/how your modulating is (if you are)..
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by Huts » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:21 pm

balthazarely wrote:
Huts wrote:
Italus wrote:The hardest part of making a growl sound good is EQ. I can never get it right with growls, anybody have certain methods they use? It would be greatly appreciated! :D
http://i.imgur.com/wuygF.png

the only way to EQ for those mega growls
i see in the fx chain your using a bifilter.. just curious as to what sorta filter its using/how your modulating is (if you are)..
thanks
15dB BandPass filter with some random automation drawn in. this is one of the sounds that Soundcloud
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by dotcurrency » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:36 pm

Huts wrote: 15dB BandPass filter with some random automation drawn in. this is one of the sounds that Soundcloud

mind sharing some tips or something on how you got it to growl like that? That's pretty much the exact kind of growl I'm trying to achieve here.
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Post by Huts » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:55 am

dotcurrency wrote:
Huts wrote: 15dB BandPass filter with some random automation drawn in. this is one of the sounds that Soundcloud

mind sharing some tips or something on how you got it to growl like that? That's pretty much the exact kind of growl I'm trying to achieve here.
I made a reese and have 2 notch filters controlled by 2 different LFO's automating constantly. I then used the bandpass filter to get the movement then used the EQ/Overdrive/Exciter to bring out the high's that got pretty muffled by the filter then tossed a spreader on there for some stereo effect (better heard through headphones). Pretty sure it was just 1 note held down as well
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