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-step, -core and -style

Post by wub » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:38 am

I understand what adding -step to a word does to it's perceived genrefication, but what are the -core and -style suffixes supposed to represent?

The only -core and -style genres I'm really familiar with both come with a hard- prefix...


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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by pete_bubonic » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:18 am

grindcore
breakcore

jumpstyle


I think the core suffix is supposed to denote something being taken to an extreme, perhaps, as in breakcore, is the extremities of break editing? I'm not very knowledgable about Grindcore, but I think it's a rather extreme version of that deathmetal sound?

Jumpstyle, fuck knows. That shit baffles me.
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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by wub » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:22 am

Ok, so -core is a more extreme version of a genre then?


Dubcore is basically hard dance with 'Dub' (and I use the term very fucking loosely) elements.

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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by murky21 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:52 am

Stepcorestyle?

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Post by herbs » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:52 am

Gangnam Style?

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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by wub » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:55 am

murky21 wrote:Stepcorestyle?
Corestyle are actually an NL Promotions company who are involved with the DefQon raves, IIRC.

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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by Forum » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:57 am

pete bubonic wrote:grindcore
breakcore

jumpstyle


I think the core suffix is supposed to denote something being taken to an extreme, perhaps, as in breakcore, is the extremities of break editing? I'm not very knowledgable about Grindcore, but I think it's a rather extreme version of that deathmetal sound?

Jumpstyle, fuck knows. That shit baffles me.
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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by wub » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:58 am

southstar wrote:You need to get on the chillcore


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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by murky21 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:59 am

ahhh so chill

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Post by Forum » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:59 am

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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by wub » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:00 am

And lets not forget GarageStep;


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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by pete_bubonic » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:02 am

wub wrote:Ok, so -core is a more extreme version of a genre then?


Dubcore is basically hard dance with 'Dub' (and I use the term very fucking loosely) elements.
maybe? I'm just throwing suggestions about. Maybe it's a reference to using the heart, the core, of the genre in a new (and possibly extreme) way? So Breakcore evolved from D&B and Jungle, with the break editing at it's heart?

Or more likely, some journalist thought it sounded cool?
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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by Forum » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:05 am

I dont think anyone though that deep about it, they just took the last part of hardcore and stuck it on the end
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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by murky21 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:09 am

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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by wormcode » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:29 am

wub wrote:Ok, so -core is a more extreme version of a genre then?


Dubcore is basically hard dance with 'Dub' (and I use the term very fucking loosely) elements.
Very loosely...very, haha.
Basically yeah, though not all extreme music uses those suffixes I'm sure you know. It's become a bit childish/cheesy I think... though 'breakcore' sounds better and makes more sense than its previous name - drill 'n bass.
'Step' I think always referred to certain drum paterns in whatever genre. Like techstep was very techno inspired, rigid drum machine type dnb (originally anyway).


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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by test_recordings » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:32 am

wormcode wrote:
wub wrote:Ok, so -core is a more extreme version of a genre then?


Dubcore is basically hard dance with 'Dub' (and I use the term very fucking loosely) elements.
Very loosely...very, haha.
Basically yeah, though not all extreme music uses those suffixes I'm sure you know. It's become a bit childish/cheesy I think... though 'breakcore' sounds better and makes more sense than its previous name - drill 'n bass.
'Step' I think always referred to certain drum paterns in whatever genre. Like techstep was very techno inspired, rigid drum machine type dnb (originally anyway).
In fact, Bionics made a `dubcore` track in 2006 or something... it`s actually dubbed `90s hardcore so it`s not that silly of a moniker



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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by wolf89 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:39 am

I thought that core refered to hardcore

like grindcore - it's referring to hardcore punk.

Breakcore is like the most hardcore break shit?

dubcore - hardcore dubstep?

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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by magma » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:45 am

I don't think there are major rules for "style", but "core" is definitely anything in-extremis, but it's really a contraction of "hardcore"*. Breakcore = Hardcore Breaks.

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Re: -step, -core and -style

Post by wub » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:46 am

So, for -step we have...

Breakstep - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakstep
Dubstep - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep
Hardstep- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardstep

For -core...

Breakcore - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakcore
Dubcore - http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/214609 ( :| )
Hardcore - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore

And for -style...

Breakstyle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVMuP-W8Kf4
Dubstyle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XNpTf7ekOo*
Hardstyle - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardstyle

*Dubstyle tends to take the kick styling of hardstyle tracks, while combining them with the rhythm, groove, and dubstep tempo and effects a fusion of elements of hardstyle with a dubstep rhythm, usually a 2-step or a breakbeat rhythm. Because of the non-straightened beat in dubstyle, the bass is often more dragged out and/or it doesn't follow a strict offbeat pattern that regular hardstyle incorporates, which in turn results in Dubstyle basslines bearing similarities to dubstep basslines. The first mainstream dubstyle track was Headhunterz & Brennan Heart's "The MF Point of Perfection".



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