Most important stage in the workflow?

NinjaEdit · Post by **NinjaEdit** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:43 am

Which stage in the workflow do you think has the most significant influence on the final recording?

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:45 am

Huts · Post by **Huts** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:59 am

what's with these random arbitrary questions that have no reason for actually being asked? my composition, mixdown, arrangement, and sound design don't happen in stages, some of which doesn't even happen in the same project. Most important stage in your workflow? Actually opening your DAW and working

wormcode · Post by **wormcode** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:07 am

Ehh... I'll say I don't care if a good tune isn't mixed down well. Half the music I listened to growing up and continue to listen to would be laughed at (and sometimes is) by today's standards of mixing, mastering and sound design. That doesn't make them any less good because the ideas (arrangement & composition) are what make them good. Listen to any classic dnb or jungle, most of it sounds terrible from a technical perspective, but it's fucking amazing regardless.

Attila · Post by **Attila** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:48 am

It's all fucking important

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:51 am

None of the above.

Ghost of Muttley · Post by **Ghost of Muttley** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:56 am

What is this some kind of discussion!?

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:57 am

I'd say sample digging is probably the most important stage in my workflow...but that's from a personal standpoint. Good sounds = good tunes. You can't make a good tune if the samples you're using are whack...the chiptune genre is an example of that.

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:01 pm

sound design for sure,

cause who gives a fuck if someone makes a tune using just modern talking and scrapyard, even if its professionally mixed down and mastered. it will be stupid as hell.

isnt sound design supposed to be what dubstep it about? i mean, we are all a bunch of nerds making music with purely synthesizers for the most part. use the synthesizers to their full potential.

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:06 pm

RandoRando wrote:isnt sound design supposed to be what dubstep it about? i mean, we are all a bunch of nerds making music with purely synthesizers for the most part. use the synthesizers to their full potential.

You're confusing dubstep with brostep.

VirtualMark · Post by **VirtualMark** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:09 pm

This question is a bit silly - without any of the above being up to scratch, your tune is going to suck. The only thing i'd say is less important is mastering, as i'd rather pay an engineer to do that for a number of reasons.

And why split up composition and arrangement, how can you have one without the other?

wub wrote:You can't make a good tune if the samples you're using are whack...the chiptune genre is an example of that.

What do you mean about chiptunes?

illtabulous · Post by **illtabulous** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:57 pm

Mixdown because I can never fucking do it right.

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:42 pm

Yeah sound design, including sample digging too. The better it sounds early on, the better it will later.

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:23 pm

wub wrote:
RandoRando wrote:isnt sound design supposed to be what dubstep it about? i mean, we are all a bunch of nerds making music with purely synthesizers for the most part. use the synthesizers to their full potential.
You're confusing dubstep with brostep.

is coki dubstep or brostep? some of the best sound design ive heard. Mystikz? are they brostep? cause they have killer sound design as well.

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:02 pm

top-down, that list reads from most important to least important. standard.

twilitez · Post by **twilitez** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:51 pm

Genevieve wrote:Yeah sound design, including sample digging too. The better it sounds early on, the better it will later.

This for me also.

3za · Post by **3za** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:15 am

DRUGS!?!?!?

nowaysj · Post by **nowaysj** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:44 am

Finishing a track is the most important stage.

Ficticious · Post by **Ficticious** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:26 am

Composition! To be able to write music properly with no off tune/melodies is really a majorrr piece.

It goes hand in hand with arrangement (Piecing them together and such) but still. Composition is the originality within a song.
(For the sake of this thread)

All of them of course imo are equally important though.

The last one mastering not as important, but it does give that really nice finishing touch.

wub · Post by **wub** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:16 am

nowaysj wrote:Finishing a track is the most important stage.

Truth.

3za wrote:DRUGS!?!?!?

Less of a stage more of an ongoing improvement plan.

VirtualMark wrote:
wub wrote:You can't make a good tune if the samples you're using are whack...the chiptune genre is an example of that.
What do you mean about chiptunes?

Because of the limited chiptunes palette of sounds the focus is on songwriting more.