The Game - Holy Water

[Terpit]

Lol, you guys

[oddfellow]

I'm not that bothered about the sample myself, it's just a shame such a massive wanker is MCing over it. The video and song/lyrics look like/sound like an advert.

[dickman69]

the Game is not a wanker

[TopManLurka]

how did this get to 10 pages doe

[ehbes]

how did this get to 10 pages doe

rayman

[leeany]

I come from a hiphop background, have been producing hiphopbeats since I was 10 or 11, used to buy the most obscure records to get some samples that nobody's ever used. And I would never sample something straight from a Mala tune like that. People really don't seem to have any kind of sampling ethics

[dickman69]

wasnt my fault, it was the ignorant ppl needing me to explain myself 5 times

[dickman69]

I come from a hiphop background, have been producing hiphopbeats since I was 10 or 11, used to buy the most obscure records to get some samples that nobody's ever used. And I would never sample something straight from a Mala tune like that. People really don't seem to have any kind of sampling ethics

see u know

ppl on dsf fucking ignorant about hip hop ethics

they are part of the present problem

[Genevieve]

I came from hip-hop and I think that rayman is wrong.

There's just this thing called logic that is severely lacking in hip-hop. And logic says that sampling = sampling. The moment you say 'LOL UR NOT X SO YOU'LL NEVER GET IT' is when you start telling people off for being objective and not immersed in senseless dogma

'Tradition' is logic for lazy people who can't do logic.

[dickman69]

y does it have to be logical

[Genevieve]

Because then you're at least attempting to look beyond your own bubble.

Not "getting it" just means that I'm not immersed in one of the most ridiculous and stupid and narrowminded, counter-intellectual little subcultures (bar perhaps dub or black metal) that youth culture ever had to offer. The music is decent, but the morality itself is an attack on living brain tissue.

[oddfellow]

the Game is not a wanker

he may well not be a wanker, have never met the bloke in person so I shouldnt really judge. But the fact he's going on about women sucking dick for products, when he's the one who's riddled his tune with references to name brands, makes him sound like one to me.

[dickman69]

i like my bubble

[Soulstep]

I come from a hiphop background, have been producing hiphopbeats since I was 10 or 11, used to buy the most obscure records to get some samples that nobody's ever used. And I would never sample something straight from a Mala tune like that. People really don't seem to have any kind of sampling ethics

It’s not like dance artists are any better

I wonder if Kelis cares this much about James Blakes - Cmyk or brandy about Blawan – getting me down
Or Alicia Keys about Mala - Alicia or even Mavado about Compa’s career building refix

Burial - ray j - one wish

the list goes on

[Jake Daniel]

rayman, im sorry but youre a fucking idiot.

[Jake Daniel]

i keep going to write a more civil and constructive arguement but then realise theres no point as you quite clearly have this strange double-standard close-minded view set in stone

[dickman69]

w/e idc

other people obviously understand where im coming from

i think u guys are closeminded ones

[Genevieve]

I believe in an invisible man in the sky but I've never seen him. Oh yeah, I hate the gays too. You wouldn't get this, though. Only christians know where I'm coming from. And if don't know where I'm coming from, you're pretty narrowminded.

[dickman69]

i believe in the gospel of hip hop

no biting, #3 in 10 commandments

[RightOnTime27]

guys it's Rayman. The fact that you are taking him seriously is a tad ridiculous.
And this the instrumental bangs, shame the game is one who's on it. I would love to hear somebody else
edit: I listened again and his flow isn't bad...the lyrics are just sooooooo...wank.