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Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM8?

Post by alexfsu » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:38 am

I hear nothing but major praise for FM8, but I've never even heard of FL Studio's Sytrus. Turns out, it's quite sick, and used frequently by Madeon and others. Seamless in this vid displays its power, and goes as far as to say Sytrus is better than FM8. Whatcha guys think?


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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by NinjaEdit » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:49 am

People here praise Sytrus.

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by Hostile Invasion » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:52 am

Eh. I'm gonna respond with the typical "one isn't better than the other" response. Sytrust can do some things better tan FM8 and FM8 can do some things better than Sytrus. If I were producing in FL I'd use Sytrus only because it's integrated into FL.

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by ljk32 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:57 am

I have yet to try FM8, but I know that Sytrus is a beast of a VST.

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by Electric_Head » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:00 am

FM8 and Sytrus are both great.
I wouldn't compare the 2 though.
I also use Rhino which is also a FM synth with additional capabilities.
Between FM8 & Rhino I can create very different sounds with very similar settings.
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by RandoRando » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:11 am

fm8 makes cool sounds, but sometimes i feel like sytrus has better sound quality
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by Eridu » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:21 am

fm8 has more effects, sytrus has a better modulation "scheme". You can import your own waves in sytrus, I dont think you can in fm8...Really what it comes down to is how much you learn the synth. If sytrus is better but you know fm8 better then fm8 is of more use to you.

If I had to choose, I`d take sytrus over fm8.

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by VirtualMark » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:36 am

Define "better". I'd call it different, offering another sonic palette. Can Sytrus make all of the sounds FM8 can? No. Can FM8 make all of the sounds Sytrus can? No.

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by zerbaman » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:28 am

RandoRando wrote:fm8 makes cool sounds, but sometimes i feel like sytrus has better sound quality
Well, Sytrus makes the same sounds... And it allows you to import your own waveforms. And probably two legs cheaper...
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by Augment » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:23 pm

zerbaman wrote:
RandoRando wrote:fm8 makes cool sounds, but sometimes i feel like sytrus has better sound quality
Well, Sytrus makes the same sounds... And it allows you to import your own waveforms. And probably two legs cheaper...
+ you have that option where you can add higher harmonics inside an osc without routing another osc to it like you have to do in fm8.
I'd say that if not better, sytrus is alot more worth the money than fm8.

FM8 costs 179€ btw, and FL Studio signature bundle that has sytrus costs 299$.
Updates for FM8 costs 69€, while FL Studio has lifetime free updates...
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by Sinfected » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:32 pm

VirtualMark wrote:Define "better". I'd call it different, offering another sonic palette. Can Sytrus make all of the sounds FM8 can? No. Can FM8 make all of the sounds Sytrus can? No.
This. I use both om them and I feel like FM8 brings a better sound right out of the box, but I could see how some people feel the same way about sytrus. Its all personal taste.

Sytrus is easier for beginners I think, although FM8 has pretty much the same functionality once you learn to navigate it.

Its like arguing about if red or blue is better imo.

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by Electric_Head » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:50 pm

blinkesko wrote:
FM8 costs 179€ btw, and FL Studio signature bundle that has sytrus costs 299$.
Updates for FM8 costs 69€, while FL Studio has lifetime free updates...
I haven't paid for any FM8 updates.
NI gives them free.
You are referring to the update from FM7 to 8.
I bought FM8 as part of Komplete.
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by Augment » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:56 pm

Electric_Head wrote:
blinkesko wrote:
FM8 costs 179€ btw, and FL Studio signature bundle that has sytrus costs 299$.
Updates for FM8 costs 69€, while FL Studio has lifetime free updates...
I haven't paid for any FM8 updates.
NI gives them free.
You are referring to the update from FM7 to 8.
I bought FM8 as part of Komplete.
Could be, i just saw that it said that updates cost 69€
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by jrisreal » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:54 pm

All I can say is that I'm happy with Sytrus
...in my opinion
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by sunny_b_uk » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:09 pm

theyre both good, sytrus sounds better in quality when using the oversampling option. also fm8 has a powerful XY pad for morphing 4 presets and you can fm the filter in fm8 which is nice, however sytrus has a lot more filters types in there & can use 3 in series or parallel to create any sound you can think of.

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by alexfsu » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:17 pm

Yeah I'm not too concerned about onboard FX as I'm going to throw it right into Harmor and possibly Vocodex. I just want the sickest sounds right out of the matrix, and FM8 has not been panning out as I hoped for, probably due to me not putting as much time as I should. It's just so tempting to see Seamless in that vid tweak literally a few knobs in Sytrus and voila, there's a cool bass. Not that I'm lazy, but talk about fast workflow!

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by Sure_Fire » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:47 am

The only problem with sytrus is that you can't feed back the filters into the operators. Other than that, if it's FL studio you're using then it's a better choice I think.
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by zerbaman » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:42 am

Sinfected wrote:
VirtualMark wrote:Define "better". I'd call it different, offering another sonic palette. Can Sytrus make all of the sounds FM8 can? No. Can FM8 make all of the sounds Sytrus can? No.
This. I use both om them and I feel like FM8 brings a better sound right out of the box, but I could see how some people feel the same way about sytrus. Its all personal taste.

Sytrus is easier for beginners I think, although FM8 has pretty much the same functionality once you learn to navigate it.

Its like arguing about if red or blue is better imo.
I swear you can get it separately?
Tbf, I don't even use it, I really just dislike native instruments' products :6:
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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by twilitez » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:00 am

sunny_b_uk wrote:theyre both good, sytrus sounds better in quality when using the oversampling option. also fm8 has a powerful XY pad for morphing 4 presets and you can fm the filter in fm8 which is nice, however sytrus has a lot more filters types in there & can use 3 in series or parallel to create any sound you can think of.
Thats the only thing that could possibly make you pick FM8 over Sytrus.

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Re: Can't believe I'm asking this: Is Sytrus better than FM

Post by zerbaman » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:06 am

Explain further.
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