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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by Terpit » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:25 am

I think there would be another conflict for us to concentrate on that is equally as bad if not worse
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

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Like what?
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:38 am

Israel just gave Hamas a 36 hour ultimatum
http://rt.com/news/israel-ultimatum-ham ... nsive-028/

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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by Terpit » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:43 am

nowaysj wrote:Like what?
Dunno, something will pop up, its not like this is the only conflict going on at the moment.

On another note, overheard some colleagues talking about Winston Churchill (they thought he was German) and went over to see what they were on about, they had a wiki page open with everyone who was and is a Mason. He told me Israel is the Illuminati of the Middle-East because they are trying to take over the Middle-East and the Illuminati are trying to take over the world.
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by Terpit » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:45 am

deadly habit wrote:Israel just gave Hamas a 36 hour ultimatum
http://rt.com/news/israel-ultimatum-ham ... nsive-028/
Is that site reliable? never really been on it but when I have ive noticed weird articles
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by joeki » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:13 am

to quote Noam Chonsky, an evil jew himself:

"When Israeli's in occupied territories now claim they have to defend themselves, they are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing. You can't defend yourself when you're military is occupying someone else's land. That's not defense."

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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by mIrReN » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:28 am

America always lobbys for Israel, bring them over there!

Oh wait they tried that during WW II America didn't want them.
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:29 am

you could make a new promised land in mexico
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by garethom » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:30 am

mIrReN wrote:America always lobbys for Israel, bring them over there!

Oh wait they tried that during WW II America didn't want them.
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From some website wrote:In December 1945, President Harry Truman issued a directive that loosened quota restrictions on immigration to the US of persons displaced by the izan regime. Under this directive, more than 41,000 displaced persons immigrated to the United States; approximately 28,000 were Jews. In 1948, the US Congress passed the Displaced Persons Act, which provided approximately 400,000 US immigration visas for displaced persons between January 1, 1949, and December 31, 1952. Of the 400,000 displaced persons who entered the US under the DP Act, approximately 68,000 were Jews.

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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by mIrReN » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:31 am

There's already a wall over there so they could easily settle in and get used to it.

yeah garethom obviously I meant prior to the war (that's why I said during)
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by garethom » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:31 am

Nevalo wrote:you could make a new promised land in mexico
No joke, not sure where I read that, and not sure what religion it was, but I'm sure there's a religion that actually proposed this, like, their actual promise land wasn't available, so went with mexico. :lol:

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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by mIrReN » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:35 am

enjoy


Refugees from izan Germany

In the years before and during World War II the United States Congress, the Roosevelt Administration, and public opinion expressed concern about the fate of Jews in Europe but consistently refused to permit large-scale immigration of Jewish refugees.

In a report issued by the State Department, Undersecretary of State Stuart Eizenstat noted that the United States accepted only 21,000 refugees from Europe and did not significantly raise or even fill its restrictive quotas, accepting far fewer Jews per capita than many of the neutral European countries and fewer in absolute terms than Switzerland.

According to David Wyman, "The United States and its Allies were willing to attempt almost nothing to save the Jews."[43]

U.S. opposition to immigration in general in the late 1930s was motivated by the grave economic pressures, the high unemployment rate, and social frustration and disillusionment. The U.S. refusal to support specifically Jewish immigration, however, stemmed from something else, namely antisemitism, which had increased in the late 1930s and continued to rise in the 1940s. It was an important ingredient in America's negative response to Jewish refugees.[44]

About 100,000 German Jews did arrive[where?] in the 1930s, escaping Hitler’s persecution.[citation needed]
MS St. Louis
Main article: MS St. Louis

The SS St. Louis sailed from Germany in May 1939 carrying 936 (mainly German) Jewish refugees. On 4 June 1939, it was also refused permission to unload on orders of President Roosevelt as the ship waited in the Caribbean Sea between Florida and Cuba. Initially, Roosevelt showed limited willingness to take in some of those on board. But the Immigration Act of 1924 made that illegal and public opinion was strongly opposed[citation needed]. The ship returned to Europe. 620 of the passengers were eventually accepted in continental Europe, of these only 365 survived the Holocaust.
World War II and the Holocaust
A synagogue on West Twenty-Third Street in New York City remained open 24 hours on D-Day for special services and prayer.

The United States’ tight immigration policies were not lifted during the Holocaust, news of which began to reach the United States in 1941 and 1942 and it has been estimated that 190,000–200,000 Jews could have been saved during the Second World War had it not been for bureaucratic obstacles to immigration deliberately created by Breckinridge Long and others.[45]

Rescue of the European Jewish population was not a priority for the US during the war, and the American Jewish community did not realize the severity of the Holocaust until late in the conflict.

even more;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_izan_Party
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:38 am

garethom wrote:
Nevalo wrote:you could make a new promised land in mexico
No joke, not sure where I read that, and not sure what religion it was, but I'm sure there's a religion that actually proposed this, like, their actual promise land wasn't available, so went with mexico. :lol:[/quote

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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by mIrReN » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:39 am

above link was not the link I meant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund

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let's not forget they merged or allied the KKK etc
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by Terpit » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:45 am

garethom wrote:
Nevalo wrote:you could make a new promised land in mexico
No joke, not sure where I read that, and not sure what religion it was, but I'm sure there's a religion that actually proposed this, like, their actual promise land wasn't available, so went with mexico. :lol:
I think Charles Manson and his 'crew' planned on going to Mexico after the war (that never) happened to repopulate. Might have been someone else tho
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by garethom » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:50 am

mIrReN wrote:enjoy


Refugees from izan Germany

In the years before and during World War II the United States Congress, the Roosevelt Administration, and public opinion expressed concern about the fate of Jews in Europe but consistently refused to permit large-scale immigration of Jewish refugees.

In a report issued by the State Department, Undersecretary of State Stuart Eizenstat noted that the United States accepted only 21,000 refugees from Europe and did not significantly raise or even fill its restrictive quotas, accepting far fewer Jews per capita than many of the neutral European countries and fewer in absolute terms than Switzerland.

According to David Wyman, "The United States and its Allies were willing to attempt almost nothing to save the Jews."[43]

U.S. opposition to immigration in general in the late 1930s was motivated by the grave economic pressures, the high unemployment rate, and social frustration and disillusionment. The U.S. refusal to support specifically Jewish immigration, however, stemmed from something else, namely antisemitism, which had increased in the late 1930s and continued to rise in the 1940s. It was an important ingredient in America's negative response to Jewish refugees.[44]

About 100,000 German Jews did arrive[where?] in the 1930s, escaping Hitler’s persecution.[citation needed]
MS St. Louis
Main article: MS St. Louis

The SS St. Louis sailed from Germany in May 1939 carrying 936 (mainly German) Jewish refugees. On 4 June 1939, it was also refused permission to unload on orders of President Roosevelt as the ship waited in the Caribbean Sea between Florida and Cuba. Initially, Roosevelt showed limited willingness to take in some of those on board. But the Immigration Act of 1924 made that illegal and public opinion was strongly opposed[citation needed]. The ship returned to Europe. 620 of the passengers were eventually accepted in continental Europe, of these only 365 survived the Holocaust.
World War II and the Holocaust
A synagogue on West Twenty-Third Street in New York City remained open 24 hours on D-Day for special services and prayer.

The United States’ tight immigration policies were not lifted during the Holocaust, news of which began to reach the United States in 1941 and 1942 and it has been estimated that 190,000–200,000 Jews could have been saved during the Second World War had it not been for bureaucratic obstacles to immigration deliberately created by Breckinridge Long and others.[45]

Rescue of the European Jewish population was not a priority for the US during the war, and the American Jewish community did not realize the severity of the Holocaust until late in the conflict.

even more;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_izan_Party
To be fair, the US were still pretty isolationist at the time, but still, it's your net quote vs mine. :6: Find a country that would've been willing to take in ALL the displaced people of the holocaust. You're making an unfair example.

The American izan Party thing is hardly relevant is it? Not like they were in power. Bet you'd be hard pushed to find a country with white people in that doesn't have people calling themselves a izan Party.

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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by mIrReN » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:33 pm

ugh nvm
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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:27 pm

Terpit wrote:
deadly habit wrote:Israel just gave Hamas a 36 hour ultimatum
http://rt.com/news/israel-ultimatum-ham ... nsive-028/
Is that site reliable? never really been on it but when I have ive noticed weird articles
Yes it is.

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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by garethom » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:31 pm

Very few people have actually suggested what THEIR solution would be. So I repeat. What is your solution if it was 100% going to be enacted?

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Re: Confused by Israel Situation

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:39 pm

deadly habit wrote:Let the region sort itself out without any foreign intervention.

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