Paul McCartney as Kurt Cobain

[magma]

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... rvana.html

If anyone ever gets the chance, they can punch Dave Grohl in the face for me citing the last 15 years of his musical output and, if possible, spitting in his eye a bit?

[deadly_habit]

WTF doesn't even sum up how retarded this is...

[Genevieve]

Is this legit? Just seems so odd

[ch3]

Yeah, just read about it too. It seems so odd that I'm actually curious about the outcome. Even though I know it's gonna be shite.

[Genevieve]

how will he capture the pain of teh kurdt? :'0

[yoowan]

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 11434.html

source that isn't the sun for those who question its legitimacy..

[kidshuffle]

Considering Paul didn't even know they were all a part of Nirvana when he jammed with them, I doubt they're even going to do any Nirvana songs. Seems to me that we're just going to get the song from the session.

Who cares?

[pkay]

As one of the only people on this forum old enough to have seen Nirvana live this is a deserving titanic of an abortion for the most overrated band in history. Nirvana was just another band until Cobain offed himself. They weren't ground breaking or earth shattering until after the fact. The Pixies and The Smashing Pumpkins were the ones really pushing new sounds in that era and were viewed as such. It was just a sad self loathing era and when cobain committed suicide people latched on to it.

So glad something stupid is happening to this stupid fucking band

[ninjadog]

As one of the only people on this forum old enough to have seen Nirvana live this is a deserving titanic of an abortion for the most overrated band in history. Nirvana was just another band until Cobain offed himself. They weren't ground breaking or earth shattering until after the fact. The Pixies and The Smashing Pumpkins were the ones really pushing new sounds in that era and were viewed as such. It was just a sad self loathing era and when cobain committed suicide people latched on to it.

So glad something stupid is happening to this stupid fucking band

I shouldent rant because of your opinion...but I cant help it.
As one of the other members of the forum who are old enough to have seen Nirvana WHAT THE FUCK? Nirvana was the band who put the grunge into the mainstream. They were totally groundbreaking, remember that album Nevermind? Yeah it was groundbreaking and earth shattering. I remember the first time I heard a Nirvana song; Teen spirit, I was driving my 77 mercury marquis down a gravel road by my house when I heard it on the radio and my mind got blown, can't say the same about any other band cept Metallica. Smashing pumpkins lol they were she shittiest band of that era. At Lolapalooza 94 or 95 people started to leave when the Pumpkins came on to headline because no one gives two shits about those wanks. And Soundgarden was the band viewed as pushing new sounds. I mean I like The Pixies but saying they or the Pumpkins are a bigger deal than Nirvana is just fucktarded.
Cobain was the last great rockstar the world has known. And he dident kill himself, he was murdered.
I find it hard to believe you were old enough to see them before 94 because you would know they were the biggest band at the time selling the most records.

Don't mean to be offensive, but your coming across as someone who found out about alternative music when the rest of the mainstream did and let mtv decide which bands were ok to support. Did you also like Bush X and Our Lady Peace?

Least we can agree McCartney fronting Nirvana is pretty fucking stupid.

[kidshuffle]

[LGBT]

Kurt Cobain admitted that he stole his ideas from the Pixies, especially the "quiet/loud/quiet" bit that has been spoken of ad nauseum over the last twenty years.

I could have seen Nirvana live in early '92 but i chose to go see Neds Atomic Dustbin instead.... now that was truly groundbreaking !!!!!

[dubfordessert]

oh shit lol.

kurt cobain was murdered tho?

[pkay]

As one of the only people on this forum old enough to have seen Nirvana live this is a deserving titanic of an abortion for the most overrated band in history. Nirvana was just another band until Cobain offed himself. They weren't ground breaking or earth shattering until after the fact. The Pixies and The Smashing Pumpkins were the ones really pushing new sounds in that era and were viewed as such. It was just a sad self loathing era and when cobain committed suicide people latched on to it.

So glad something stupid is happening to this stupid fucking band

I shouldent rant because of your opinion...but I cant help it.
As one of the other members of the forum who are old enough to have seen Nirvana WHAT THE FUCK? Nirvana was the band who put the grunge into the mainstream. They were totally groundbreaking, remember that album Nevermind? Yeah it was groundbreaking and earth shattering. I remember the first time I heard a Nirvana song; Teen spirit, I was driving my 77 mercury marquis down a gravel road by my house when I heard it on the radio and my mind got blown, can't say the same about any other band cept Metallica. Smashing pumpkins lol they were she shittiest band of that era. At Lolapalooza 94 or 95 people started to leave when the Pumpkins came on to headline because no one gives two shits about those wanks. And Soundgarden was the band viewed as pushing new sounds. I mean I like The Pixies but saying they or the Pumpkins are a bigger deal than Nirvana is just fucktarded.
Cobain was the last great rockstar the world has known. And he dident kill himself, he was murdered.
I find it hard to believe you were old enough to see them before 94 because you would know they were the biggest band at the time selling the most records.

Don't mean to be offensive, but your coming across as someone who found out about alternative music when the rest of the mainstream did and let mtv decide which bands were ok to support. Did you also like Bush X and Our Lady Peace?

Least we can agree McCartney fronting Nirvana is pretty fucking stupid.

I have no clue what parallel universe you were living in. The fact you mentioned Bush and Our lady peace leads me to believe you're talking more about 1994/1995/1996 than 1991ish era when grunge was breaking through. You're talking more about grunge heading into alternative I was in middle school in 1992 and don't remember anyone ranting or raving about how awesome Nirvana was. Infact the most talked about thing about nirvana was the fact their new album had a babys dick on the cover and we couldn't wear that shirt to school. No one was talking about how awesome a song writer cobain was or how inspiring their music was. They were just another band. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Dinosaur Jr, Fugazi, Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins, The Pixies, Morphine, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, can go on and on.

Around the time Cobain committed suicide, the biggest talk was about how awesome the new Offspring album was shaping out to be as the two singles released to radio were killing it. It was actually released the week after his suicide.

They were a good band at the time and one of many. That said, very few people viewed Nirvana as a generation defining band prior to his death. Siamese Dream was viewed as far superior to Nevermind when it was released. Spawned far more radio hits and was generally speaking far better received. Prior to that Gish was viewed as a trippy unique album where as Bleach was just barr chords and simple writing.

I just hate that Nirvana's role is so exaggerated. I went to the record store almost daily and no one was just ranting and raving about Nirvana prior to his death. It just wasn't happening.

[nowaysj]

Yes it was, shut up.

[mks]

Macca, 70, has been secretly working with Foo Fighters singer Dave Grohl and bassist Krist Novoselic after a recent session at a studio. The pair were founding members of Nirvana along with Cobain...

Dave Grohl was not a founding member of Nirvana. Get ya facts straight, English newspaper.

I met Krist Novoselic at a club I was DJ'ing at. Is that one for the shit claims to fame thread?

[mks]

I don't know pkay, that's not really how I remember it.

[ninjadog]

As one of the only people on this forum old enough to have seen Nirvana live this is a deserving titanic of an abortion for the most overrated band in history. Nirvana was just another band until Cobain offed himself. They weren't ground breaking or earth shattering until after the fact. The Pixies and The Smashing Pumpkins were the ones really pushing new sounds in that era and were viewed as such. It was just a sad self loathing era and when cobain committed suicide people latched on to it.

So glad something stupid is happening to this stupid fucking band

I shouldent rant because of your opinion...but I cant help it.
As one of the other members of the forum who are old enough to have seen Nirvana WHAT THE FUCK? Nirvana was the band who put the grunge into the mainstream. They were totally groundbreaking, remember that album Nevermind? Yeah it was groundbreaking and earth shattering. I remember the first time I heard a Nirvana song; Teen spirit, I was driving my 77 mercury marquis down a gravel road by my house when I heard it on the radio and my mind got blown, can't say the same about any other band cept Metallica. Smashing pumpkins lol they were she shittiest band of that era. At Lolapalooza 94 or 95 people started to leave when the Pumpkins came on to headline because no one gives two shits about those wanks. And Soundgarden was the band viewed as pushing new sounds. I mean I like The Pixies but saying they or the Pumpkins are a bigger deal than Nirvana is just fucktarded.
Cobain was the last great rockstar the world has known. And he dident kill himself, he was murdered.
I find it hard to believe you were old enough to see them before 94 because you would know they were the biggest band at the time selling the most records.

Don't mean to be offensive, but your coming across as someone who found out about alternative music when the rest of the mainstream did and let mtv decide which bands were ok to support. Did you also like Bush X and Our Lady Peace?

Least we can agree McCartney fronting Nirvana is pretty fucking stupid.

I have no clue what parallel universe you were living in. The fact you mentioned Bush and Our lady peace leads me to believe you're talking more about 1994/1995/1996 than 1991ish era when grunge was breaking through. You're talking more about grunge heading into alternative I was in middle school in 1992 and don't remember anyone ranting or raving about how awesome Nirvana was. Infact the most talked about thing about nirvana was the fact their new album had a babys dick on the cover and we couldn't wear that shirt to school. No one was talking about how awesome a song writer cobain was or how inspiring their music was. They were just another band. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Dinosaur Jr, Fugazi, Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins, The Pixies, Morphine, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, can go on and on.

Around the time Cobain committed suicide, the biggest talk was about how awesome the new Offspring album was shaping out to be as the two singles released to radio were killing it. It was actually released the week after his suicide.

They were a good band at the time and one of many. That said, very few people viewed Nirvana as a generation defining band prior to his death. Siamese Dream was viewed as far superior to Nevermind when it was released. Spawned far more radio hits and was generally speaking far better received. Prior to that Gish was viewed as a trippy unique album where as Bleach was just barr chords and simple writing.

I just hate that Nirvana's role is so exaggerated. I went to the record store almost daily and no one was just ranting and raving about Nirvana prior to his death. It just wasn't happening.

Siamese dream was viewed by who to be superior to Nevermind? Definetly not me. I was in grade 8 when nevermind came out and I guess I was in the minority of people who viewed it as a generation defining band. Nirvana's music was just something I could easily get into, I loved it. There was a girl in my art class who took n exacto knife and carved "nirvana" with that smily faxe with x's for eyes into her leg then poured india ink onto it, essentially giving her self a tattoo, the Pumpkin fanatics I knew bought a t-shirt. I was more into punk rock at the time so it wasent a big stretch to like Nirvana. On the other hand there were also people in my school who viewed Spin and Rollingstone magazine as the bible and they were the same guys who thought Pumpkins and Pearl Jam were the shit was Nirvana was shit. I just cant help to think their minds were made up for them and they were liking the bands someone else was paid to rave about, or they simply liked less aggressive pussy music. But my circle of friends thought Nirvana was the real deal and bands like Bad Religion, Decendants, NOFX, Pennywise were what was peaking our interests, that list you rattled off with Fugazi, Sonic Youth and Dino Jr could also be added but I just hate Smashing Pumpkins and Billy Corgans whiny voice. I just mentioned Bush and OLP because you came across to me as someone who got into the scene late, but thats obviously not the case.
I also was in record shops all the time...You don't recall any buzz about in Utero? I definetly don't remember anyone telling me I have to listen to Smashing Pumpkins new album. You can't deny In Utero was one of the most anticipated albums before it's release. Maybe you dident notice the people expressing their sadness when Cobain died bacause you hate the guy so much, but I for one gave a shit. And people I skated gave a shit too, one guy spray painted "sell the kids food" on a huge wall as a tribute, idiot forgot the word "the".

The reason I liked Nirvana so much was the simple bar chords and raw emotion, it was stripped down to it's bare bones. I guess you either love it or hate it. They were the band who inspired me to learn an instrument and be in a band.

[pkay]

Nevermind debuted at #144 on the billboard top 200

it didn't go #1 as an album until 3 months later

Smells like teen spirit peaked at #6, was never a #1 hit

Nevermind won ZERO grammys and was only nominated for two.

Nirvana were not some huge force for grunge in 1991. It was a gradual thing that was spun out of control with Kurt's suicide.

I'm not trying to shit on Nirvana... just trying to deaden the over romantacism associated with them and especially nevermind.

It really was just the part of grunge that was latched on to by frat boys, late bloomers, and kids at the time of Kurts death trying to backtrack and feel like they were a part of a dying movement. Around his death grunge was dying and "alternative" was taking over.

If Kurt were alive there wouldn't be any of this talk about how they were the voice of a generation. Not in the slightest

[ninjadog]

Dosent matter where they debuted or what awards they dident win. You are dead wrong. As soon as Teen Spirit hit the airwaves they exploded and became the voice of a generation according to the media. Cobain did not want that and was part of the reason shit spun out of control with his life. Maybe your right with the fratboys but who gives a fuck about them. But they were definitely a lot bigger than you think before his death. If not Cobain who would you say was the voice of that generation?

[pkay]

As one of the only people on this forum old enough to have seen Nirvana live this is a deserving titanic of an abortion for the most overrated band in history. Nirvana was just another band until Cobain offed himself. They weren't ground breaking or earth shattering until after the fact. The Pixies and The Smashing Pumpkins were the ones really pushing new sounds in that era and were viewed as such. It was just a sad self loathing era and when cobain committed suicide people latched on to it.

So glad something stupid is happening to this stupid fucking band

I shouldent rant because of your opinion...but I cant help it.
As one of the other members of the forum who are old enough to have seen Nirvana WHAT THE FUCK? Nirvana was the band who put the grunge into the mainstream. They were totally groundbreaking, remember that album Nevermind? Yeah it was groundbreaking and earth shattering. I remember the first time I heard a Nirvana song; Teen spirit, I was driving my 77 mercury marquis down a gravel road by my house when I heard it on the radio and my mind got blown, can't say the same about any other band cept Metallica. Smashing pumpkins lol they were she shittiest band of that era. At Lolapalooza 94 or 95 people started to leave when the Pumpkins came on to headline because no one gives two shits about those wanks. And Soundgarden was the band viewed as pushing new sounds. I mean I like The Pixies but saying they or the Pumpkins are a bigger deal than Nirvana is just fucktarded.
Cobain was the last great rockstar the world has known. And he dident kill himself, he was murdered.
I find it hard to believe you were old enough to see them before 94 because you would know they were the biggest band at the time selling the most records.

Don't mean to be offensive, but your coming across as someone who found out about alternative music when the rest of the mainstream did and let mtv decide which bands were ok to support. Did you also like Bush X and Our Lady Peace?

Least we can agree McCartney fronting Nirvana is pretty fucking stupid.

I have no clue what parallel universe you were living in. The fact you mentioned Bush and Our lady peace leads me to believe you're talking more about 1994/1995/1996 than 1991ish era when grunge was breaking through. You're talking more about grunge heading into alternative I was in middle school in 1992 and don't remember anyone ranting or raving about how awesome Nirvana was. Infact the most talked about thing about nirvana was the fact their new album had a babys dick on the cover and we couldn't wear that shirt to school. No one was talking about how awesome a song writer cobain was or how inspiring their music was. They were just another band. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Dinosaur Jr, Fugazi, Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins, The Pixies, Morphine, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, can go on and on.

Around the time Cobain committed suicide, the biggest talk was about how awesome the new Offspring album was shaping out to be as the two singles released to radio were killing it. It was actually released the week after his suicide.

They were a good band at the time and one of many. That said, very few people viewed Nirvana as a generation defining band prior to his death. Siamese Dream was viewed as far superior to Nevermind when it was released. Spawned far more radio hits and was generally speaking far better received. Prior to that Gish was viewed as a trippy unique album where as Bleach was just barr chords and simple writing.

I just hate that Nirvana's role is so exaggerated. I went to the record store almost daily and no one was just ranting and raving about Nirvana prior to his death. It just wasn't happening.

Siamese dream was viewed by who to be superior to Nevermind? Definetly not me. I was in grade 8 when nevermind came out and I guess I was in the minority of people who viewed it as a generation defining band. Nirvana's music was just something I could easily get into, I loved it. There was a girl in my art class who took n exacto knife and carved "nirvana" with that smily faxe with x's for eyes into her leg then poured india ink onto it, essentially giving her self a tattoo, the Pumpkin fanatics I knew bought a t-shirt. I was more into punk rock at the time so it wasent a big stretch to like Nirvana. On the other hand there were also people in my school who viewed Spin and Rollingstone magazine as the bible and they were the same guys who thought Pumpkins and Pearl Jam were the shit was Nirvana was shit. I just cant help to think their minds were made up for them and they were liking the bands someone else was paid to rave about, or they simply liked less aggressive pussy music. But my circle of friends thought Nirvana was the real deal and bands like Bad Religion, Decendants, NOFX, Pennywise were what was peaking our interests, that list you rattled off with Fugazi, Sonic Youth and Dino Jr could also be added but I just hate Smashing Pumpkins and Billy Corgans whiny voice. I just mentioned Bush and OLP because you came across to me as someone who got into the scene late, but thats obviously not the case.
I also was in record shops all the time...You don't recall any buzz about in Utero? I definetly don't remember anyone telling me I have to listen to Smashing Pumpkins new album. You can't deny In Utero was one of the most anticipated albums before it's release. Maybe you dident notice the people expressing their sadness when Cobain died bacause you hate the guy so much, but I for one gave a shit. And people I skated gave a shit too, one guy spray painted "sell the kids food" on a huge wall as a tribute, idiot forgot the word "the".

The reason I liked Nirvana so much was the simple bar chords and raw emotion, it was stripped down to it's bare bones. I guess you either love it or hate it. They were the band who inspired me to learn an instrument and be in a band.

Sorry bro I'm calling you out on some bullshit. When Nevermind was getting huge the smashing pumpkins were relatively unknown. So the odds of you knowing any Pumpkins Fanatics in 1992 is pretty much slim and none. Gish was a cult hit and was very far from being in the mainstream. Kurt was alive maybe 9 months into the smashing pumpkins popularity with Siamese Dream. When Siamese Dream came out it was primarily on the heels of it being produced by butch vig. When people got ahold of it it was viewed as the evolution of grunge into alternative.

Anywho I don't hate Kurt Cobain I just don't think he was a visionary or doing anything new. As mentioned before in this thread he was just repackaging the pixies doolittle over and over and over again. When you had Kim Thayil doing these insanely complex atmospheric works of art and then you had Nirvana doing 4 chord garage band tracks it just didn't compare. Listen to Soma by the pumpkins and compare it to anything on In Utero. The amount of talent involved is just on an entirely different level. Set aside Corgans voice and you have one of the greatest musical composers of our generation and respected as such by an entire generation of songwriters.

I guess I viewed Nirvana at the time kind of the way people view Skrillex. He may be popular and getting a lot of credit but was far from the driving force for dubstep, didn't invent anything, isn't viewed by his peers or anyone else active in the scene as an OG. MTV played a HUGE part in making Nirvana into what they are. I remember them having memorial shit every hour on the hour, streams of courtney reading that letter and kids crying in seattle. MTV wanted this to be our Lennon moment to make dollars so they wrote history as they wanted it to be.

I'm not saying they were insignificant, that would be false. I'm just saying they were one of the very popular bands at the time like offspring, soundgarden, pearl jam, green day, pumpkins, collective soul, etc and weren't huge standouts on the level they are recognized as now