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mushroom
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by mushroom » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:16 pm
dr h wrote:mushroom wrote:dr h wrote:mushroom wrote:rayman612 wrote:did u just post a bullshit way to steal his tunes and then write an appreciative description of his music
ban IMO
Look, it's understandable that my post has offended you, I apologize for that, but where I come from, I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina, and all this music does not exist here.
Here it is impossible to acquire the LP or EP for Hyperdub, and are vinyl or cd.
fuck off with that bullshit. hyperdub sells the mp3s directly from their store, using paypal. you don't even need a paypal account anymore, just a debit/credit card. last i checked, they had both in argentina.
god i hate this entitled mp3 pirate culture, trying to justify their shit with bullshit excuses. you want his music but don't want to pay for it. the sooner you admit that, the sooner you can get on with the rest of your pikey-life.
ok man, no need to throw shit, I have no credit card to have songs in mp3 not my fault, I do not want to justify "my shit" if you use your head to get in place of another person who is not there, and no "credit card" and do not have access to not only get Hyperdub songs but almost 90% of the múscia there, do not talk crap man.
then get a job, earn some money, join a bank, apply for a debit/credit card, then you can join the rest of the civilised world and actually purchase things you care about.
like the previous guy said, crying poverty doesn't automatically make you entitled to everything. it doesn't give you the right to share links to music on a popular web forum, where people care about the artists and labels, especially for a release that literally was released a few hours ago. now get banned, thx.
ok man, if we start that way now I get it, I'm still a minor to have cards, I am also aware of the things that happen there, I apologize for posting this, now if they want to ban me, do it, really, what a shame that I started on the wrong foot.
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ultraspatial
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by ultraspatial » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:28 pm
lol no need to get him banned for that. Himself or a mod can just edit that. Big deal. People who want to buy will buy; those who don't, won't. And getting pissed at a kid on a forum won't change that.
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vishes
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by vishes » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:36 pm
mushroom wrote:dr h wrote:mushroom wrote:dr h wrote:mushroom wrote:
Look, it's understandable that my post has offended you, I apologize for that, but where I come from, I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina, and all this music does not exist here.
Here it is impossible to acquire the LP or EP for Hyperdub, and are vinyl or cd.
fuck off with that bullshit. hyperdub sells the mp3s directly from their store, using paypal. you don't even need a paypal account anymore, just a debit/credit card. last i checked, they had both in argentina.
god i hate this entitled mp3 pirate culture, trying to justify their shit with bullshit excuses. you want his music but don't want to pay for it. the sooner you admit that, the sooner you can get on with the rest of your pikey-life.
ok man, no need to throw shit, I have no credit card to have songs in mp3 not my fault, I do not want to justify "my shit" if you use your head to get in place of another person who is not there, and no "credit card" and do not have access to not only get Hyperdub songs but almost 90% of the múscia there, do not talk crap man.
then get a job, earn some money, join a bank, apply for a debit/credit card, then you can join the rest of the civilised world and actually purchase things you care about.
like the previous guy said, crying poverty doesn't automatically make you entitled to everything. it doesn't give you the right to share links to music on a popular web forum, where people care about the artists and labels, especially for a release that literally was released a few hours ago. now get banned, thx.
ok man, if we start that way now I get it, I'm still a minor to have cards, I am also aware of the things that happen there, I apologize for posting this, now if they want to ban me, do it, really, what a shame that I started on the wrong foot.
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_TraX_
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by _TraX_ » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:42 pm
i think it's threads like this that keep Burial going. He was right to shy away from the internet, so as long as people contribute to wild threads like this, Burial will continue to stay the fuck out of it, and will keep on missing 2step garage and pirate radio etc etc etc etc
I found a way to get piece of mind for years and left the hell alone, turn a deaf ear to the cellular phone
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ketamine
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by ketamine » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:48 pm
-TraX- wrote:i think it's threads like this that keep Burial going. He was right to shy away from the internet, so as long as people contribute to wild threads like this, Burial will continue to stay the fuck out of it, and will keep on missing 2step garage and pirate radio etc etc etc etc
Actually I think Burial
is some of these people tbh. Seriously.
Anyway, my b*tch ass just bought it. I have to. I have literally all his music, so I’m sort of a collector. And in context, like during a random setting on Burial playlist, the songs will fit with the rest of his music, giving us an extra 25 mins of material. Which is nice.
But by itself?

C’mon Bareal. U can does much better.
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ketamine
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by ketamine » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:01 pm
This album is waste.
Been listening to it all morning trying to like, but I feel so dirty now, like I’ve been taken advantage of. Kode 9 knows we’ll buy anything Bierall puts out, but this time he put out gerberge and he knows it. Worse is that he made us wait so long for it, instead of just giving people the d*mn tunes they DID want.
Why do that?
Troll.
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Devry_Kaneda
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by Devry_Kaneda » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:04 pm
^ 100% disagree. the 'track' that comes in around 4 min in truant is the heaviest thing he's ever produced.
sound-system worthy.
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Lichee
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by Lichee » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:14 pm
Devry[Kaneda] wrote:^ 100% disagree. the 'track' that comes in around 4 min in truant is the heaviest thing he's ever produced.
sound-system worthy.
agreed, definitely his heaviest
shame on anyone pirating this, 25 minutes of amazing sound for £2.50, that's a serious bargain
must be annoying from the profit side with Burial making stupidly long tunes, this could be broken up and flogged as an album i.e. Where Were U In '92 style, but that's why it's even better
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Devry_Kaneda
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by Devry_Kaneda » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:17 pm
I'd pay a tenner for this release

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flyingointment
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by flyingointment » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:38 pm
Genevieve wrote:I don't dislike the new shit because it isn't as good as the previious release, or because it's 'something different'. I really don't care. I don't like it (and Kindred) cuz it's on some cheesy ass shit and Burial was supposed to be above cheese.
Tru that.
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Devry_Kaneda
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by Devry_Kaneda » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:47 pm
While the slight frustration about the nature of this music's presentation, how they're more like sketches than developed songs, is a legitimate critique, I think it makes a lot of sense within the broader context of Hyperdub's recent output.
The Hyperdub sound is it's complete lack of continuity between releases, in the same way that everything that Osiris Music's sound is the same from release to release. Within this framework, I think it only stands to reason that burial's sound needed to get a bit more disjointed. A little more fucked up. It's kind of an indicator of the label's direction, especially considering the fact that he's been the label's most stable and consistent producer from the very beginning.
To me, Burial IS Hyperdub, and his releases serve as a commentary as well as reflection of the label and the idea's that it's trying to convey.
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joeki
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by joeki » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:53 pm
No.
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Devry_Kaneda
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by Devry_Kaneda » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:03 pm
Why not? Kode could have released a multitude of Burial tracks in a multitude of different formats. Granted, I've never run a label before, but I don't see how once you've created a monster like the burial zeitgeist or hyperdub itself, that you wouldn't think carefully about direction and what each release means. I'm sure most of us here value this as art, above dance music, and there's no reason why the thought surrounding it shouldn't be consequently elevated a little bit.
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Devry_Kaneda
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by Devry_Kaneda » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:04 pm
The man wrote a 300+ page book on sound frequencies. He definitely overthinks thing, if you want to look at it like that.
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bcwarlock
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by bcwarlock » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:08 pm
Im pretty new to this forum but I have to say that I never was aware of how many people disliked Ashtray Wasp which seems to be the template for this releases track structuring.To me it is still the best Burial track, followed by this release and massive attack collab..... it is almost like a classical piece or a symphony or some shit....next level for sure, but thats just my take on it:)
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joeki
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by joeki » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:12 pm
I appreciate the angle you are trying to work but I just don't see it. I think a Burial release is as spontaneous as it gets. Burial was/is his only way of getting out of that over-analysing/style/ethic bs. Why else release an artists who has stated before to be largely disconnected from what is happening in the contemporary UK music scene.
Listening to these tunes over the last hour or so, I have to say they've grown already on me. I think this is on par with Street Halo (not Kindred, not by a long shot for me). But I see Burial making choices I personally don't agree with, that is something completely new to me. In fact, I don't think I've ever doubted his choices at all before, didn't even come up in my mind. Now I'm thinking stuff like why are there cowbells in this bit (middle section Rough Sleeper), and why did he push that shit all the way to the background when it could have been a straight up banger ala speedball?
I still think this is his most uneventful material to date, but it is still quality I'll give him that.
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ultraspatial
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by ultraspatial » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:18 pm
Devry[Kaneda] wrote:^ 100% disagree. the 'track' that comes in around 4 min in truant is the heaviest thing he's ever produced.
sound-system worthy.
heavy on a system =/= good (ex: shit tearout tunes by certain big producers "u gotta hear it on a propa system m8"

)
I do get what you're saying about Hyperdub, though I wouldn't go as far as saying Burial = Hyperdub; it's its own entity. The thing I like about the label is that even though it has some of the most diverse output out there, it all sorta fits together and makes sense (except for that shit Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland album but whatever). It has a common aesthetic that few other labels have; the only one I can think of is Keysound, maybe 3024.
Forgot where I was going with this one...
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