Dubstep becoming too dark and masculine?

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:37 pm

Fushimi wrote:I think there's a definite danger of "there's too much wobblestep" becoming a green aligator. Aligators are not green, but enough people think they are, so it's become a fact. Enough people are saying there's too much wobblestep, but is there really? What tunes out there use the wobble? A few by Skream, a few by Coki and then Caspa.

Is "there's too much wobblestep" just another way of saying "I don't like Caspa's tunes"?

Are you insane? Have you been to any of the big London dubstep clubs recently? there's HOURS of the stuff. This really is a debate about proportion...

virus human race · Post by **virus human race** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:47 pm

LEQ wrote:I'd love to hear Midnight Request Line at the next night I go to, I'm sure the place would go mental if It came on as well.

Im glad this is the type of response my question got here, I was worried in case nights wouldnt go off unless the DJ was playin the latest Dubs thats comin out, y'know. Its good to see people would still skank out to old good shit (like i would myself)

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:51 pm

Shonky wrote:
D-Nile wrote:We are now talking about the difference between pop and the underground really - cockney thug is more acceptable to the outside world - fine - but are they really a benchmark for what's a good tune in our scene?

Do you think they would like bury the boy?
I don't see something being popular as necessarily bad and I think it's pretty snobbish to think otherwise. I like Cockney Thug as it reminds me a lot of 2-tone stuff from when I was a nipper. Ghost Town was number one donchaknow and I don't think anyone would say that was shit (unless they're bell-ends obviously)

you wouldn't believe how much bury da bwoy has appealed to people i play to in wales with little or no knowledge of dubstep music. really goes off, and likewise for midnight request line, i dunno what you mean when you say they 'wouldn't get away with playing' it - it's always huge!

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:53 pm

I usually can't stand this kind of thread but this one has actually been interesting.

viz. Request Line- still pisses on the majority of dancefloor tunes from a height

hera · Post by **hera** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:14 pm

the standard by which i rate a dark tune is D1's Ritual. if you can hang, all the power to you and your dark, aggressive masculine tunes.

d-nile · Post by **d-nile** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:29 pm

pk- wrote:
We are now talking about the difference between pop and the underground really - cockney thug is more acceptable to the outside world - fine - but are they really a benchmark for what's a good tune in our scene?
No matter how hard I try I cannot get my head around this comment

I was using pop and underground as a metaphor for impact vs deep - that is what we're on about isn't it?

I think wobbly stuff is quick impact stuff that's easy to digest = pop

Whereas something a bit more deep and adventurous like burial = a bit more underground

No one is saying that big wobbly tunes are crap - just like blackdown says - the proportion is a bit too much by some djs...

When rubber chicken came out - I was into it. Well the first section anyway. But there weren't that many tunes like that on the scene then were there? But I am pretty bored of it now..

I think this thread has been good but it's hard to argue against a certain sound without pissing off people who like certain (or all) if the tunes in that genre.

No one is saying get rid of them - just not all night please!

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:30 pm

agree with blackdown - it's about balance

a set full of wobblers and hype tunes is dull

then again, a 100% deep un melodic 'meditation' style set would be probably be boring as well.

t-mus · Post by **t-mus** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:36 pm

wow, this topic has grown fast!
last time i checked there where about 3 pages,

can anyone sum up these 10 pages in one witty sentence?

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:38 pm

T-mus wrote:wow, this topic has grown fast!
last time i checked there where about 3 pages,

can anyone sum up these 10 pages in one witty sentence?

djs need to look in more than one bin when they go the the shop.

ok that wasn't witty...sorry...work makes my humour rather dry...

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:44 pm

T-mus wrote:wow, this topic has grown fast!
last time i checked there where about 3 pages,

can anyone sum up these 10 pages in one witty sentence?

more cluster, less bluster?

more mescaline, less masculine?

what was the question again?

virus human race · Post by **virus human race** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:16 pm

masstronaut wrote:what was the question again?

Whats the real colour of a crocodile? I think

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:34 pm

dubwoofa- good shit.

godseyeview · Post by **godseyeview** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:48 pm

I like passive aggressive sounds

dj_distinct · Post by **dj_distinct** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:18 pm

Variety is always good. Especially when spun in proper sequence (e.g. from day to NIGHT)

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:19 pm

Am I the only one that doesn't like Cockney Thug?

Christ this thread is massive.

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:23 pm

abZ wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't like Cockney Thug?

Shut it you slag.

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:35 am

masstronaut wrote:
abZ wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't like Cockney Thug?
Shut it you slag.

Thats not very nice.

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:43 am

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:44 am

shards · Post by **shards** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:01 am

sapphic_beats wrote:obviously i am a bit detached from some of that, living in a place where i am lucky if i get to play/hear the music once a month or so. sometimes it's frustrating to feel so isolated, but i also realize that isolation affords me a bit more room for perspective and experimentation. i have been hearing a LOT of good music that doesn't toe the line, but then i am not exposed to djs playing dubstep every weekend. so i feel that i have a lot more room to go in new directions, just by virtue of not really having anyone to judge it (aside from those who can hear my sets here).

i can certainly identify with the need to want to get a crowd jumpin by playing bangers (it is a party, after all), but i can see how people immersed in a scene with parties all the time are kind of competing to see who can bang it best, ya know? i guess my perspective has always been (regardless of genre, and i have played techno, house, dnb, broken beat AND dubstep at this point), how do you stand out in a crowd of ten gerbajillion djs/producers?

for me, the answer has always been, take it in a bit of a different direction than other people. it's generally more difficult, since crowds tend to react to what they know and what gets em dancing the easiest, but i find it ten times more satisfying.

Coming from a similar place (well, not geographically speaking but you know what I mean

), I would have written exactly the same thing. Respect!

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