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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by moot0ne » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:17 pm

JTMMusicuk wrote:
RandoRando wrote:
moot0ne wrote:
RandoRando wrote:how do you put bitcrushers only at certain frequencies?
Could you bus them somehow?
not without messing up the master with eq.
if you were to make a send track with a eq before and bitcrusher, it would just be dupliacte playing over the original sound
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I think thats when splitting frequencies and multiband compression comes in. Camel Phat is very useful for this.
I moved my comments about this here -- http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=660 If you want to continue the discussion. I felt evil for slightly hijacking the thread.

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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by Apearon » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:24 pm

Any one heard any news on this?

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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by fv2k » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:56 am

Marzz wrote:
VirtualMark wrote:
Marzz wrote:
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Marzz wrote:I would love to see them talk about their bitcrusher trick :twisted:
Their studio is gonna be sickkkkkk :h:
What bitcrusher trick? :O
They put a bitcrusher at 4kHz and 16kHz when they are mixing down so they don't hurt your ears after its mastered. Genius :i:
I don't get it? What would this achieve?
It gives a crystal clear sound. Camo and Krooked talked about it in an interview.
"When music is louder, it gets dull." - Camo and Krooked
"a higher loudness level can be achieved through limiting, an art Noisia has mastered to perfection. They will put distortion/bitcrushing on frequencies between 4kHz and 16kHz and therefore have a crystal clear sound that will not harm your ears. Transients, though, will clearly be percieved." - Camo and Krooked
They didn't talk about it that much.
that's for the whole mix?

could do the ol' phase invert freq split trick, for people without multiband distortion plugs... might even be better depending on how they split frequencies.

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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by VirtualMark » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:35 pm

fv2k wrote:
could do the ol' phase invert freq split trick, for people without multiband distortion plugs... might even be better depending on how they split frequencies.
What's this trick? I've not heard of it before.

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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:53 pm

as far as i remember camo crooked didnt speak english in that interview it was something more along these lines: na geh weida noisia hoam des perfektioniert. die benutzan an bitcrasha oaber nur oberhoalb bissi bussi



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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:53 pm

BudSpencertron wrote:as far as i remember camo Kkrcrooked didnt speak english in that interview it was something more along these lines: na geh weida noisia hoam des perfektioniert. die benutzan an bitcrasha oaber nur oberhoalb bissi bussi



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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by fv2k » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:28 am

VirtualMark wrote:
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could do the ol' phase invert freq split trick, for people without multiband distortion plugs... might even be better depending on how they split frequencies.
What's this trick? I've not heard of it before.


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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by JaceWzu » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:39 am

wub wrote:
wormcode wrote:I think Billain has far surpassed them in sound design
:z:

If I want to listen to batshit crazy neuro tunes, it'll either be Billain or (more often) anything on NeoSignal.

All the Noisia fanboys going apeshit about this video are just idiots. "ZOMG DEY SAYZ HOW 2 MAEK DIPLODICUS BASE??!!??" has been over my Twitter feed since this got announced.
I like a few Billain tracks and his intro atmospheres are pretty sick, but to be honest sometimes it sounds like he's grabbed a bunch of random foley samples and chucked Vocodex on the master. Always sounds really plastic.

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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:45 pm

JaceWzu wrote:
wub wrote:
wormcode wrote:I think Billain has far surpassed them in sound design
:z:

If I want to listen to batshit crazy neuro tunes, it'll either be Billain or (more often) anything on NeoSignal.

All the Noisia fanboys going apeshit about this video are just idiots. "ZOMG DEY SAYZ HOW 2 MAEK DIPLODICUS BASE??!!??" has been over my Twitter feed since this got announced.
I like a few Billain tracks and his intro atmospheres are pretty sick, but to be honest sometimes it sounds like he's grabbed a bunch of random foley samples and chucked Vocodex on the master. Always sounds really plastic.
i honestly think hes not at the same level yet, of course hes ultra good in sound design maybe even better than noisia but noisia delivered good and diverse tunes over such a long time now. phace on the other hand is a god haha. btw does anybody know what the other part of the original phace is up to nowadays?
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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by wub » Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:03 pm

BudSpencertron wrote:btw does anybody know what the other part of the original phace is up to nowadays?
From an interview in Knowledge;
Phace (Florian) wrote:Nicolas Ruoff is the other half of Phace, he's currently based in Luxembourg, and is taking a sort of time out to concentrate on his career in the financial sector.

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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by Augment » Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:10 pm

BudSpencertron wrote:
JaceWzu wrote:
wub wrote:
wormcode wrote:I think Billain has far surpassed them in sound design
:z:

If I want to listen to batshit crazy neuro tunes, it'll either be Billain or (more often) anything on NeoSignal.

All the Noisia fanboys going apeshit about this video are just idiots. "ZOMG DEY SAYZ HOW 2 MAEK DIPLODICUS BASE??!!??" has been over my Twitter feed since this got announced.
I like a few Billain tracks and his intro atmospheres are pretty sick, but to be honest sometimes it sounds like he's grabbed a bunch of random foley samples and chucked Vocodex on the master. Always sounds really plastic.
i honestly think hes not at the same level yet, of course hes ultra good in sound design maybe even better than noisia but noisia delivered good and diverse tunes over such a long time now. phace on the other hand is a god haha. btw does anybody know what the other part of the original phace is up to nowadays?
Quote from Knowledge Magazine I found somewhere:
Phace wrote:Nicolas Ruoff is the other half of Phace, he's currently based in Luxembourg, and is taking a sort of time out to concentrate on his career in the financial sector
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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:54 pm

thx guys i knew that interview :( thought he might be back making music under an alias :?
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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by bRRRz » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:38 pm

i haven't seen those camo & krooked vids before, they're good... o.O
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Post by Augment » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:52 pm

hahaha fuck, didn't see wub's post before mine :lol:
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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by VirtualMark » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:47 am

JTMMusicuk wrote:
RandoRando wrote:
moot0ne wrote:
RandoRando wrote:how do you put bitcrushers only at certain frequencies?
Could you bus them somehow?
not without messing up the master with eq.
if you were to make a send track with a eq before and bitcrusher, it would just be dupliacte playing over the original sound
ill mindset wrote:
I think thats when splitting frequencies and multiband compression comes in. Camel Phat is very useful for this.
So, does anyone know any more about this? What is bitcrushing your drums going to achieve? And by bitcrushing, do they mean sample rate reduction, or bit depth?

Either way, i don't really get what it's supposed to achieve?

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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:52 am

what camo crooked guys really say is that noisia seem to distort or bitcrush the area between 4000 -16000 hertz. so that it still is crystal clear but not piercing to the ears. i asume its the method of brostep with white noise but in a more human way . maybe even used instead or in connection with a deesser
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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by VirtualMark » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:44 am

BudSpencertron wrote:what camo crooked guys really say is that noisia seem to distort or bitcrush the area between 4000 -16000 hertz. so that it still is crystal clear but not piercing to the ears. i asume its the method of brostep with white noise but in a more human way . maybe even used instead or in connection with a deesser
Thanks for the explanation, but i still don't get it. I've seen the video, but what i don't understand is how it would work.

Sample rate reduction just causes aliasing, so that wouldn't be good.

And reducing the bit depth reduces the dynamic range and brings the noise floor up. I don't understand how this would make anything clearer.

TBH i'm wondering if the video wasn't translated 100%, i'm not sure about this tip at all. They might have meant saturation or limiting instead, but i might be wrong.

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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:52 am

haha nono i am german thats prettymuch what they said

hm in context their goal is to reach a very loud still not sharp mix for big clubs i guess its not intended for homelistening experience. i think its a trick the ear into hearing sth that isnt there anymore idea. they want to have a clear high area with no sharp edges that can be raised in volume as high as possible
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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by mthrfnk » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:37 pm

Arrived through my letterbox this morning, just started the video :D
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Re: Noisia Future Music Video Coming Soon!

Post by mthrfnk » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:45 pm

mthrfnk wrote:Arrived through my letterbox this morning, just started the video :D
Been watching this on and off all afternoon... not really impressed tbh.

I think they're using a track from the Devil May Cry soundtrack as their demo.

Mostly the only things they've covered (I'm 2/3 of the way through) are how they use Superior Drummer and split their drums up and using their collection of FX/bass samples. For example there was a really cool set of sounds at the drop, and to explain it they didn't show the synthesis, just gave a 30 second overview and explained how they dealt with Kontakt samples to add stuff in.
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