Glad there some some dj's left who don't leak shit!I consider my dubs sacriligious, and would kill* anyone tryna demean their value.
To many traders lol
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I would hope theres at least 500 people worldwide who would want a copy of a good enough tune tune on 12" vinyl. If a further market of home listeners/cd & laptop heads and non dj's want to buy an mp3 at a lower cost I'm all for it, its still getting the music out there.CRYPTIC wrote:How long till the vinyl goes tho?
Whats the average sale of vinyl in dubstep!
4x4 - your lucky to push 500
The end of vinyl has been debated for years on this forum and pretty much every other one, someone posted a link a couple of weeks back to basicly the same threads created in 05, 06 and 07
i live all the way up north in helsinki so i'm definitely going to fly over to london to press 10 tunes + all the tunes i get from my friends on dub while i can barely pay the rentCRYPTIC wrote: i live all the way up north in Sheffield, and i use trip all the way down to liquid mastering in london just to get my own tunes pressed on dub!
never thought of that really. i've been cheating myself all the time when i've been playing cd's as well
When I used to mix vinyl I was dead against the idea of mixing cd's because I thought it was cheating and didn't take any skill. Ultimately, I wanted to feel better about the fact that I was the only one of my mates who could do amazing beat mixing...
But beat mixing really isn't that hard.....is it!!! Obviously there's a hell of a lot more to a set than beat mixing, but is it any different what format or medium you use.
The point that hasn't been mentioned is that cd/laptop djing leaves so much more room for creativity. Mixing one tune into the next just doesn't cut it any more. You have the opportunity to use sampling, fx returns, 4 channel mixing etc etc etc. You have to challenge yourself to think about a set in different ways because you're no longer limited by the physical restrictions of vinyl.
But beat mixing really isn't that hard.....is it!!! Obviously there's a hell of a lot more to a set than beat mixing, but is it any different what format or medium you use.
The point that hasn't been mentioned is that cd/laptop djing leaves so much more room for creativity. Mixing one tune into the next just doesn't cut it any more. You have the opportunity to use sampling, fx returns, 4 channel mixing etc etc etc. You have to challenge yourself to think about a set in different ways because you're no longer limited by the physical restrictions of vinyl.
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I use Virtual DJ. A demo came with my MP3 mixer and I liked it so I bought the full version. Not only can you mix and add effects but you can also mix video at the same time.
I've done all my mixes on it.
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Some people don't care for vinyl. This is the 21st century and crackly old expensive plastic rules no more. Move with the times.
I've done all my mixes on it.
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Some people don't care for vinyl. This is the 21st century and crackly old expensive plastic rules no more. Move with the times.
eff that. i'll always be a vinyl head. anyone can buy a laptop and download and pirate whatever digital files they want, but i think vinyl will always live. there's way too much stuff on vinyl that doesn't exist in digital form. plus digital mixing requires practically no skill at all. digital crap eliminates a lot of the art form of being a dj, but it does have it's uses. the only thing i would support is stuff like serato and final scratch. they're about as close to vinyl as you can get. anything that lets you instantly match and sync beats is pretty lame and if that's all you use/know, then you shouldn't even consider yourself a dj because a 2 year old could do the same thing. plus vinyl just sounds better. i would only use that stuff if i was playing my own tunes or traveling a lot and couldn't carry crates of records with me. to each their own though.TigerMoff wrote:This is the 21st century and crackly old expensive plastic rules no more. Move with the times.
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What a choade.CRYPTIC wrote:THEN PRESS YOU OWN MUSIC FOOL! - It doesn't cost that much!
i live all the way up north in Sheffield, and i use trip all the way down to liquid mastering in london just to get my own tunes pressed on dub!
thats whats its all about!
CD DJ'S - HAVE RUINED THE INDUSTRY!
keep it inside, chief.
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Perhaps i should do the same.thesynthesist wrote:What a choade.CRYPTIC wrote:THEN PRESS YOU OWN MUSIC FOOL! - It doesn't cost that much!
i live all the way up north in Sheffield, and i use trip all the way down to liquid mastering in london just to get my own tunes pressed on dub!
thats whats its all about!
CD DJ'S - HAVE RUINED THE INDUSTRY!
keep it inside, chief.
Yes...unfortunately turntables don't automatically sync and match beats in a point and click style which you can do in most software. You could also have loops and cue points set up perfectly with software to beat juggle. Who wants to see someone do that when it's the software doing most of the work and not the dj? I'd rather see someone physically do that with real objects and their own hands and mind instead of having some 1's and 0's process shit.Slothrop wrote: Sorry, so you're saying that the 'art form of being a DJ' has more to do with carrying heavy boxes and being able to make two records play at the same speed than, say, with tune selection and mixing?
Like I said, digital has advantages and to each their own. Some people use it wisely to make some cool mixes and some use it to be lazy because they just can't beat match or keep records synced on tables. The technology is great and all, but at the same time, I think it does hurt a part of the music scene because there are a lot of "djs" out there that resort to digital just so they don't have to pay for music to play, which is very sad, but at the same time expected, especially when certain genres just have a lot of overpriced crap being put out on vinyl, which in itself, could be the end effect of people pirating shit to begin with.
I'm not trying to start a war with vinyl vs digital...it's been done before, but I think it's no contest that using solely vinyl requires more skill then digital, unless you're doing unique shit with digital. Each is its own art form, but as a base, digital definitely requires much less skill as anyone can use a program to do the beat matching for them, but not just anyone can get on a set of decks and beat match records. You're a fool if you think otherwise. Perfecting beat matching on decks can take years for some people, perfecting it on digital takes a session with the software.
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