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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:34 am

A semi-auto rifle you have a very high rate of fire with much more accuracy and less recoil.

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by pkay » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:45 am

Phigure wrote: i mean what kind of rate of fire do you have with a hunting rifle as opposed to two handguns like a glock?

it's not really the rate of fire it's duration and shots on target.

Charles Whitman hit 47 people most from 100+ yards with a 5 round cartridge M1 and survived quite a while.

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by Phigure » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:45 am

deadly habit wrote:A semi-auto rifle you have a very high rate of fire with much more accuracy and less recoil.
i mean yeah, something like an ar-15 would probably be worse than handguns, but arent we talking about hunting rifles though (in the context of being able to have two handguns at home but having to check out hunting rifles)? you dont need an ar-15 to hunt
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Phigure wrote: i mean what kind of rate of fire do you have with a hunting rifle as opposed to two handguns like a glock?

it's not really the rate of fire it's duration and shots on target.

Charles Whitman hit 47 people most from 100+ yards with a 5 round cartridge M1 and survived quite a while.
definitely true, but most of these shootings tend to be an individual entering a crowded area and shooting at a large volume of people at relatively close range... and in that situation i imagine 2 handguns being far more dangerous, no?
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:49 am

^thats the one. if we're talking proper hunting rifles, then its bolt-action stuff

yes you CAN get semi-auto hunting rifles, but thats besides the point. in this same senario one could also have 30 round high-cap mags at their disposal.

and to be even more besides the point, a lot of states consider these to be pistols

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by Hircine » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:58 am

Some info I picked up during criminology classes, penal law classes and from living in constant contact with favelas since I was born:

.22 or .11 aren't even for self defense, I had a case study where a guy got shot by someone who was centimeters away. Took 7 bullets to the chest and walked away, alive. Those kind of weapons (v.g rifles) are for battlefield usage. The bullets go straight through your body, that's why they use those around here in the favelas for cover fire to stop the police from going up hill. Most of the criminals casualties during confrontations with the police are from executions performed with .38 revolvers after being crippled or taken down by a M4 shot. I can see why someone would need to walk around with a concealed handgun or revolver during their work, but I fail to see when a rifle or a machine gun is needed by a civilian.
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:01 am

.22lr's are great hunting rifles tbh (bar big game)
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by kingGhost » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:03 am

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by knell » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:26 am

pkay wrote:You don't have to convert everyone with a different opinion than yours. Sometimes you just discuss shit
so an aim for an unproductive circlejerk, then. gotcha. nothing wrong with that (this is SNH after all), i was just wondering.

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by pkay » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:28 am

knell wrote:
pkay wrote:You don't have to convert everyone with a different opinion than yours. Sometimes you just discuss shit
so an aim for an unproductive circlejerk, then. gotcha. nothing wrong with that, i was just wondering.
I guess if the options are circle jerk or trying to convert someone like a zealot who can't tolerate people with different opinions, then circle jerk it is.

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by knell » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:32 am

this is certainly the place for it, as thankfully there aren't too many zealots here that i've seen (so a well reasoned argument would still be preaching to the choir). as i mentioned, i agree with your sentiments on the issue so im not afraid of some good ole fashioned jerkin :corndance:

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by Raggles » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:13 pm

Phigure wrote:
rayman612 wrote:im still waiting for your argument about deer control lol
licenses to own hunting rifles for hunters

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Would this eliminate all other weapons that are not intended to be used for hunting?

People also hunt with pistols, shotguns, (high caliber) AR's, etc, which could just be registered to hunt with in order to (whatever).

...depending on what kind of ban you'd be implying, I guess.

edit: just hopped on here and didn't notice the other pages, sorry if already discussed :P
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by Today » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:06 pm

wait, so the russian dude in those videos didn't get mercd or he did


I'd just be bummed because with all the skills he shows off, i'd be rooting for him in an assassination attempt.. I like that guy
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by MPathy » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:05 pm

Another gun thread :h:

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by nowaysj » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:15 pm

Raggles wrote: (high caliber) AR's,
Can hunt with .223/5.56
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by nowaysj » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:35 pm

Dude was tied up in his office chair, and shot in the back of the head. Wonder who did this?
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by esfandyar » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:36 am

Raggles wrote:
Phigure wrote:
rayman612 wrote:im still waiting for your argument about deer control lol
licenses to own hunting rifles for hunters

WOW PROBLEM SOLVED
Would this eliminate all other weapons that are not intended to be used for hunting?

People also hunt with pistols, shotguns, (high caliber) AR's, etc, which could just be registered to hunt with in order to (whatever).

...depending on what kind of ban you'd be implying, I guess.

edit: just hopped on here and didn't notice the other pages, sorry if already discussed :P
i just use my M203 grenade launcher on my AR-15 to go hunting. its kind of like throwing dynamite in a lake and seeing what floats to the top.
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by nowaysj » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:29 am

Have you ever tried this? Very effective, actually.
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by esfandyar » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:44 am

i have shot many AR-15s but no grenade launcher lol. but, my friend dan has one on one of the most suped up AR-15s ever with an M203.
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Re: Dude from RussiaFPS murdered because guns make you safer

Post by ehbes » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:50 am

Today wrote:wait, so the russian dude in those videos didn't get mercd or he did


I'd just be bummed because with all the skills he shows off, i'd be rooting for him in an assassination attempt.. I like that guy
no, one of his crew members was the one who got killed, btw we all do know that he isn't really russian right?
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