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Post by Citrus Boy » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:08 pm

yeah actually now I think about it..I'd go for the fat cats first :twisted:

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Post by alex bk-bk » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:02 pm

ill say this: love that there is more melody in dubstep right now!

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Post by ufo over easy » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:18 pm

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Post by dj krave » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:25 pm

UFO over easy wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote:2 many differernt notes make it grime in my opinion.
So lots of notes = grime, and not so many notes = dubstep? Would you honestly tell people that? That's an incredibly facile distinction, in my opinion. Where I see a difference between grime and dubstep, it's in aesthetic, and in vibe, not in the number of notes a producer decides to use!

Look at it this way - dubstep owes an immense debt to roots, dub, and sound system culture, and despite the depth and minimalism in the music they were making, it still had the capacity to be harmonically complex.

Without any tonal elements in your tracks, they become simply about weight and physical power, and whilst that's all well and good, if dubstep follows this path it'll just become a battle to see who's the best engineer, who's capable of producing the biggest bass sounds etc... and we've all seen how that's affected drum and bass.

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Post by dudeski » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:24 pm

i think there's also a technical reason for this one note bassline thing...

i often experienced, when finetuning bass, that there's only one note 'hitting the spine', hitting the frequencies that i want

i try to solve this problem by working with different b-lines in different notes, but it's more difficult to find suiting arrangements for this

on the other hand, if i feel 1 note's enough i don't bother putting more b-lines in it for the f*ck of it

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Post by r33lc4sh » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:41 pm

Dudeski wrote:i think there's also a technical reason for this one note bassline thing...

i often experienced, when finetuning bass, that there's only one note 'hitting the spine', hitting the frequencies that i want

i try to solve this problem by working with different b-lines in different notes, but it's more difficult to find suiting arrangements for this

on the other hand, if i feel 1 note's enough i don't bother putting more b-lines in it for the f*ck of it
we are not criticizing one not bass lines in general but the attitude "only one note basslines are real dubstep basslines" :)
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Post by dudeski » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:55 pm

^^^^

i know, i know, i'm just trying to find reasons why there's quite a few 1 note b-lines around
i just think it's more because of technical issues than it's about a general attitude

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Post by dubway » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:18 pm

you are teaching RANDOM TRIO what dubstep really is :roll:
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Post by ufo over easy » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:27 pm

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Post by appleblim » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:53 pm

can someone give an example of all these one-note-bassline tunes?

i can't think of any
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Post by random trio » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:44 pm

UFO over easy wrote:
dubway wrote:
UFO over easy wrote: you are teaching RANDOM TRIO what dubstep really is :roll:
Not trying to teach anyone anything, just expressing my opinion. Whether I'm talking to a producer or a fan makes no difference, you should be able to talk to people on a level.

Little disclaimer - I mean absolutely no disrespect to Random Trio or anyone else, this was never intended to be a hating thread at all!
none taken mate. jus good 2 see people taking an interest in the sound.

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Post by ufo over easy » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:54 pm

RANDOM TRIO wrote: none taken mate. jus good 2 see people taking an interest in the sound.
Incidentally, Joe Nice opened that radio set posted on here from a while back with one of your tunes which had a single note bassline... and it was fucking sick. Big up!
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Post by random trio » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:04 pm

r33lc4sh wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote:borg do what sounds good 2 u mate. 2 many differernt notes make it grime in my opinion.
i'd rather say they make it music ;)

yea... i'm using only one bass note i'm real dubstep ;)

and a small advice m8 - open your mind ;)
u know what ur talking about then? must have alot of dub step nights in poland..

my opinion was the more notes u use the more likely u are 2 twist em up therefor making it more grimey...my opinion.

haha thanks 4 that though. was like me telling gordan ramsey how 2 cook. :wink:

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Post by random trio » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:05 pm

UFO over easy wrote:
RANDOM TRIO wrote: none taken mate. jus good 2 see people taking an interest in the sound.
Incidentally, Joe Nice opened that radio set posted on here from a while back with one of your tunes which had a single note bassline... and it was fucking sick. Big up!
cheers bro. appreciate that.

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Post by distinction » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:08 pm

The intervals in the keys you play portray mood and feeling. For example if you move up or down a semi-tone it has quite a dark, sinister sort of feeling but if you move up a tone it tends to sound happyish. Its like the way chords work, minor chords sound quite dark and evil whilst major chords sound happy and positive. I think when someone uses a single note bassline it captures a certain mood which if used correctly can sound very powerful despite it been a very easy thing to do. The point Im trying to make is quite hard to describe but its like when you play up a scale it feels like you climbing or falling if going down. But if you use the same key then its like a ongoing thing and this can portray a quite sinister, chilled out, laid back sort of vibe? Im not sure if that makes any sense?

But at the end of the day I think people should just make music how theyw ant to and push it out then if its good enough or catches peoples attention it will go places if not it wont.

Its like the post I made the other day. Just keep on doing what your doing and reppin what your reppin.

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Post by elemental » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:10 pm

Yes, well put sir

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Post by omen » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:32 pm

examples of 1 note bassline tunes

loefah>root
skream>I
random trio>bounty

there are all strickly dub

the bass in dubstep is the main element the sequence stays at 1 note coz the bass only need to b present the id of the track is the other elements used

grime music is totally different the bassline shifts from semi tone and octave name 1 dub tune that does both

how can u try an mock a man thats bin makin supporting an part of the dubstep scene from day 1 silly if you ask me

and another thing toasty boy is not a dubstep producer :wink:

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Post by ufo over easy » Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:01 pm

Distinction wrote:The intervals in the keys you play portray mood and feeling. For example if you move up or down a semi-tone it has quite a dark, sinister sort of feeling but if you move up a tone it tends to sound happyish. Its like the way chords work, minor chords sound quite dark and evil whilst major chords sound happy and positive. I think when someone uses a single note bassline it captures a certain mood which if used correctly can sound very powerful despite it been a very easy thing to do.
I agree with all that, but I also think those rules can, and should be broken.. if it's done well anyway. That's what makes music interesting a lot of the time. Check Stonekiller by Source Direct - probably the one jungle track that sends shivers down my spine and chills me to the bone more than any other, but the bassline uses major intervals... sounds weird, properly fucked up, and extremely different. :D
Omen wrote:the bass in dubstep is the main element the sequence stays at 1 note coz the bass only need to b present the id of the track is the other elements used
That's an interesting thought, have to mull that one over :)
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Post by omen » Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:32 pm

That's an interesting thought, have to mull that one over
Are you a producer ????
If so can u post up sum audio so i can hear

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Post by ufo over easy » Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:46 pm

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