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Re: Sandy Hook Conspiracy

Post by LACE » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:30 am

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Phigure wrote:i think you forget that the government has tanks, helicopters, stealth bombers, aircraft carriers, etc
Dapt, they require all their citizens over the age of 18 to possess firearms.
0% chance, that would turn into anarchy.
Look at Switzerland, all adult males are required to own a gun by law, extremely low gun violence rate.
all these mass shootings and gun violence are precisely why america can't have nice things
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Re: Sandy Hook Conspiracy

Post by pkay » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:49 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:
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ehbrums1 wrote:but it'd be breaking federal law.....
how so
it'd be breaking Doctor- Patient Confidentiality law
I don't follow your reasoning. How are the topics of IDed guns and Docor - Patient Confidentiality related?
because you said that you think guns should be able to id mental unstable people by there finger print, do you think people's finger prints jet come out of thin air? by your plan there would need to be a database of the finger prints of mentally unstable people...great fucking idea
you do not know the definition of physician patient from a legal standpoint... should probably research it a bit but quick lesson... this commonly misunderstood Law and Order catch phrase applies to prosecution and admission of evidence. It only applies to care given by the doctor to the patient in a medical care capacity. It's tied more to self incrimination than anything and has not so much to do with general privacy.

You're also apparently unaware that there are literally dozens of instances where this is waived

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Re: Sandy Hook Conspiracy

Post by ehbes » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:02 am

I work in mental health. I know exactly what it means, and what dapt is suggesting breaks it
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Re: Sandy Hook Conspiracy

Post by pkay » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:40 am

ehbrums1 wrote:I work in mental health. I know exactly what it means, and what dapt is suggesting breaks it
You're talking about HIPPA.

Plenty of federal programs require you to waive HIPPA and provide Mental Hygiene access to a state to enroll in said program. Would just be a new gov program that would require those wanting firearms to register.

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Re: Sandy Hook Conspiracy

Post by ehbes » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:54 am

pkay wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:I work in mental health. I know exactly what it means, and what dapt is suggesting breaks it
You're talking about HIPPA.

Plenty of federal programs require you to waive HIPPA and provide Mental Hygiene access to a state to enroll in said program. Would just be a new gov program that would require those wanting firearms to register.
then yes, I though he was taking about gun manufacturers working through the govt to collect this information.
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Re: Sandy Hook Conspiracy

Post by Soul_Of_Seun » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:43 am

Being that I live just 15 minutes from the Aurora,CO shooting (my old place is 4 minutes from the thatre), I'm worried whenever conspricay theories gain traction. Read this article about the conspiracy. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... rs_of.html
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Re: Sandy Hook Conspiracy

Post by mrdii » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:07 pm

When studying the media (yes, that really is a pathetic module I acknowledge), one thing I learned was how at the time of tragic events, the media will report almost anything with an inch of truth in order to stay relevant. I.e. The source has to be validated quickly under lots of pressure/time, which means mistakes and inconsistencies will systematically happen.

I think that is what probably happened here.

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Re: Sandy Hook Conspiracy

Post by OfficialDAPT » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:38 am

mrdii wrote:When studying the media (yes, that really is a pathetic module I acknowledge), one thing I learned was how at the time of tragic events, the media will report almost anything with an inch of truth in order to stay relevant. I.e. The source has to be validated quickly under lots of pressure/time, which means mistakes and inconsistencies will systematically happen.

I think that is what probably happened here.
After doing lots of reading up on the subject and watching videos I've decided that I think that the media trying to report stuff too fast caused the conspiracy theories to start popping up, like you said. That along with a facebook page that was made before the shootings but there are logical explanations how this could have happened.
ehbrums1 wrote:
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ehbrums1 wrote:I work in mental health. I know exactly what it means, and what dapt is suggesting breaks it
You're talking about HIPPA.

Plenty of federal programs require you to waive HIPPA and provide Mental Hygiene access to a state to enroll in said program. Would just be a new gov program that would require those wanting firearms to register.
then yes, I though he was taking about gun manufacturers working through the govt to collect this information.
Not really. I think the government should be involved in the background checks and mental health checks but not the actual registration.
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