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Delay on Guitar Through Ableton

Post by BrightLights » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:26 am

So I got an audio buddy a couple months ago so I could hook my guitar up to my computer. It didnt come with any usb chord or anything, so just last week I finally went to guitar center and got some cables to hook it up, but now when I played theres like a third of a second delay from when I strum my strings to when I can hear it through my monitors. I'm completely new to using external instruments in ableton, and would really like to be able to mix my accoustic abilities with my electronic capabilities and just make some beautiful music. So if anyone here is experienced with this type of stuff I really would appreciate any sort of help with this. Thank you.
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Re: Delay on Guiter Through Ableton

Post by dickman69 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:54 am

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Re: Delay on Guiter Through Ableton

Post by noizy parka » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:49 pm

Hello,

your experiencing latency. If your just wanting to record then the best method is to burn your track to an audio file and listen to that as you record the guitar in a separate piece of audio recording software such as soundforge or one of the free ones (there are some decent ones out there but cant remember the names just now) Then put the guitar .wav into ableton (on an audio track) and mix it in they should be same tempo so you dont need to warp.

This generally is a surefire way to get solid recordings its a bit of a pain as you have to come out of the box so to speak, but it helps to aviod any issues that you otherwise suffer.

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Re: Delay on Guitar Through Ableton

Post by BrightLights » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:29 pm

Thanks for the help man. So basically theres no way to record just straight in ableton without getting any latency? That's wack. Would be a whole lot easier since I could loop it in there and add effects and get my ideas out right away and stuff but I guess I could open up audacity or something and just chop it up or something too. For sure, thanks again for the help.

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Re: Delay on Guitar Through Ableton

Post by Perej » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:28 pm

Is Ableton on the default settings in terms of buffer size and everything? Probably best to ask on the Ableton forum if so because I can't think why else that would be happening.

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Re: Delay on Guitar Through Ableton

Post by 123kidd » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:05 am

I too experienced this while tracking guitars in ableton. Why would you need to use audacity brightlights? I used to just nudge the clip forward a bit to line it up, check with the metronome and go from there.

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Re: Delay on Guitar Through Ableton

Post by BrightLights » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:43 am

That's what I've been doing so far, just morphing it a little bit so it fits right and trying to hit the strings a little early, just kind of annoying and not as smooth when trying to play along with something.

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Re: Delay on Guitar Through Ableton

Post by Today » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:23 pm

you should not need to record while compensating for latency, that's an awful thing to have to do.

check the monitoring settings for thr track in ableton, and see if there's a monitoring mixer that comes with your D/A converter drivers or software. you shu be able to open that up to monitor the signal and mute the monitoring in ableton, so youre getting realtime monitoring while it records the signal in the daw

i think the daw will always get the signal with latency but if you mute the monitor and instead monitor with other software or OTB, then the DAW should automatically slide the recorded take over a tick to compensate for latency, or you just have to move it over a tick when you're done
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Re: Delay on Guitar Through Ableton

Post by shakas » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:02 pm

this has been a question for pretty much everyone that's ever tried to record their guitar on computer.
some things that help are making sure your computer runs fast and smooth enough --- get asio4all drivers --- bring the asio buffer size/sample number as far down as you can without getting crackling audio. latency becomes more noticeable the faster you try to play...and it also gets more delayed the more vsts you try to play through. (so sometime its better to just record a raw guitar tone and then add all your effects/vsts to it after. I can get mine almost unnoticeable now...but there still is usually a very small amount...so since you're are in ableton, you can get good at warping clips you record. you can usually just click the 1st warp marker(activate it) and drag it to the left where ever you intended for it to start...that will also drag everything else in the clip intime with it in the same direction. I tend to actually go in and spend hours aligning (warping) every note to the proper time.

also ableton has a track delay section where you can nudge a track by milliseconds to line up with the rest of your song. (this is pretty similar to dragging the 1st warp marker like i mentioned before)

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